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VGN64, Check page 27 in your book and you'll see the Santa Fe cabeese in the background along with the ex Southern bay windows that await Penn Central modification. The ex Santa Fe cabs were designated N5K  and the ex Southerns were N5H.  Both were pretty rare on PC and Conrail. I remember seeing them just a couple of times and I worked around cabooses a lot. I guess PC figured it was cheaper to purchase other railroads cast-offs rather than build new transfer cabooses, plus they were in a hurry to rid the system of the old ex NYC 19000 series wood side cars.   Doug

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