@Allan Miller posted:Ditto!
Would have loved an LIRR, or a PC. I would kill for scale metroliner cars.
@kanawha posted:I just wish there was a way make a more accurate sound set available. The powered unit I have from an earlier run sounds like an early diesel loco. It should sound more like a diesel in a bus. Rapido says they recorded sounds from an actual RDC for use in their HO models. Listen to their sounds on this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=843CwTxs2tI
Ken
Nice Video, that’s the LIRR budd car I hope Scott will make. On the ERR websight they have a sound set for a gas propelled diesel rail car, wild not exact like the video I’m thinking that’s the sound set Scott would use in these RDC’s it’s a definite improvement from the past.
The RDC prime mover should sound like a Detroit diesel.
@ThatGuy posted:Would have loved an LIRR, or a PC. I would kill for scale metroliner cars.
Have you let Scott know? You are not the only person interested.
@kanawha posted:I just wish there was a way make a more accurate sound set available. The powered unit I have from an earlier run sounds like an early diesel loco. It should sound more like a diesel in a bus. Rapido says they recorded sounds from an actual RDC for use in their HO models. Listen to their sounds on this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=843CwTxs2tI
Ken
Remember the earlier ones used QSI decoders; the current ones will use ESU decoders.. I don't know if ESU has an an appropriate sound.
@Steve T posted:The RDC prime mover should sound like a Detroit diesel.
All EMD and GM diesels (in tugboats, submarines, LSTs, Great Lakes ore haulers well as locomotives and RDCs) until the 70 series used 2-cycle Detroit diesels. But those are all a lot larger than the truck variety used in RDCs (and fishing boats) which had to be small enough to fit in the under frame..
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@rdunniii posted:All EMD and GM diesels (in tugboats, submarines, LSTs, Great Lakes ore haulers well as locomotives and RDCs) until the 70 series used 2-cycle Detroit diesels.
No!!!!!!!! The so-called "Detroit Diesel" line (the 53, 71 and 110 series engines, for example) was/is quite a bit different than the original EMC/EMD 2-stroke cycle 567, 645 and 710 series prime movers. All EMC/EMD diesel electric locomotives, starting with the 567 series prime movers, were roots blown (referred to as 'Normally Aspirated' by EMD), and subsequently Turbocharged beginning in about 1959.
But those are all a lot larger than the truck variety used in RDCs (and fishing boats) which had to be small enough to fit in the under frame..
@Hot Water posted:
So your saying they are not all 2-stroke diesel cycle engines?
@rdunniii posted:So your saying they are not all 2-stroke diesel cycle engines?
Yes, they are all 2-stroke cycle diesel engines, but the EMC/EMD prime mover is much different, and sounds completely different, if that is what you are driving at. The EMC/EMD 2-stroke cycle engines have completely independent, and separately mounted, power assemblies, while the "Detroit Diesel" line of engines have cylinder liners with companion cylinder heads, pretty similar to an automotive gasoline engine. Just because the "Detroit Diesel" line of engines were/are 2-stroke cycle, does NOT make them anything like an EMC/EMD 567, 645 or 710 engine. Also, remember that the Cleveland Diesel engine Division of GM also produced various 2-stroke cycle medium speed engines for the marine industry, as well as the U.S. Navy.
@Hot Water posted:Yes, they are all 2-stroke cycle diesel engines, but the EMC/EMD prime mover is much different, and sounds completely different, if that is what you are driving at. The EMC/EMD 2-stroke cycle engines have completely independent, and separately mounted, power assemblies, while the "Detroit Diesel" line of engines have cylinder liners with companion cylinder heads, pretty similar to an automotive gasoline engine. Just because the "Detroit Diesel" line of engines were/are 2-stroke cycle, does NOT make them anything like an EMC/EMD 567, 645 or 710 engine. Also, remember that the Cleveland Diesel engine Division of GM also produced various 2-stroke cycle medium speed engines for the marine industry, as well as the U.S. Navy.
Of course there are many different models and all them evolved over time but they were all 2-cycle Diesel engines of the same fundamental design made by GM. And that is all I said. And many of the diesel powered ships during WWII and into the 1950's including Great Lake ore freighters were powered by 567s although not all an identical version because of the differing requirements.
@rdunniii posted:Of course there are many different models and all them evolved over time but they were all 2-cycle Diesel engines of the same fundamental design made by GM. And that is all I said. And many of the diesel powered ships during WWII and into the 1950's including Great Lake ore freighters were powered by 567s although not all an identical version because of the differing requirements.
Looking forward to hanging out with you and Jack at the March Meet!!!!
The discussion will be lively.
Count me in.
CN 1501 is still in service.
Someone can record the sounds of it operating for the RailSounds.
Andrew
The Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad in Ohio has RDC's and uses them for certain operations such as Education charters.
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:IT will be interesting to see which or both paint scheme versions are applied... original or Ontrack Maroon ends.
I would like to know which Susquehanna paint scheme before ordering. In order for Scott not to get stuck with unpowered units how about offering for sale a pair of the same road name one powered one unpowered?
@Hot Water posted:Yes, they are all 2-stroke cycle diesel engines, but the EMC/EMD prime mover is much different, and sounds completely different, if that is what you are driving at. The EMC/EMD 2-stroke cycle engines have completely independent, and separately mounted, power assemblies, while the "Detroit Diesel" line of engines have cylinder liners with companion cylinder heads, pretty similar to an automotive gasoline engine. Just because the "Detroit Diesel" line of engines were/are 2-stroke cycle, does NOT make them anything like an EMC/EMD 567, 645 or 710 engine. Also, remember that the Cleveland Diesel engine Division of GM also produced various 2-stroke cycle medium speed engines for the marine industry, as well as the U.S. Navy.
Follow this link to a video of 3rd rails RDC's:
