Any interest in Legacy Upgrades at October York 2023?

I'll have modules with me, so I can do a base or CAB2 update.  I don't have space to set up the computer, etc. to make modules, but I think I have room for a power plug.

Ok dumb question time.  What is the benefit of using a module over just entering the info for the particular locomotive into my Cab2 screen? I have some older locos with modules but the new ones don't come with them.

Thanks

@Dougklink posted:

Ok dumb question time.  What is the benefit of using a module over just entering the info for the particular locomotive into my Cab2 screen? I have some older locos with modules but the new ones don't come with them.

Thanks

Well the module we are discussing actually update the system software.

As far as the locomotive modules, speed is the main advantage.  There was 1 or 2 that had specific icons only available via the module.  I believe the first UPFEFs were one of them.  After that either manual entry or modules do the same thing.  Now a sensor track does the same thing as the module used to.

@Dougklink posted:

Ok dumb question time.  What is the benefit of using a module over just entering the info for the particular locomotive into my Cab2 screen? I have some older locos with modules but the new ones don't come with them.

Thanks

Not dumb.  You are thinking of the wrong modules.  What you are thinking of is the orange engine modules.  What Marty is referring to is the blue/black modules to update the legacy remote and the legacy base.  There is software running in the Legacy base and the legacy remote.  You create a module with software updates on it and then update the legacy remote and base.  Current version of the software is 1.7 for the remote and 1.6 for the base.

Ok, that makes sense.  I wasn't thinking about the system upgrades using modules.

Thanks! 

Anyway you slice it, John and Marty are offering a chance to upgrade the software for the base and remote at York. This has been a great thing that they do(didn't someone else do as well)/?) with their spare time at York. Granted, spare time is what is posted as when they are going to be able to do this, so act fast at York and get it done.

I saw a post somewhere else and want to emphasize, if you are upgrading the base or handheld you must create or have a an upgrade module for each one.  A base cannot be upgraded via a PC only. You can use the base to create an base upgrade module which then is used to upgrade the base discrete from the PC.

This is why I offer this service as it can be difficult for folks who are not familiar with the procedure to either create or obtain the modules.

@MartyE

When I did my own upgrade, I was sure to read the instructions at least twice before doing anything. When I did it, it did take a bit of back and forth, but it got done. I still have to do the latest upgrade, but I'm in no hurry at the moment so that can wait.

FWIW, I expanded my Module Mod thread to include multi-engine modules.

Free Black or Orange Modules for Legacy

If you have old White modules, you can use those to create engine modules to save configurations to.  The white modules can't be converted to black modules as they only have one chip, but they make dandy multi-engine modules.  You can also, of course, use them for a single engine module to replace a Legacy Orange Module.

@gunrunnerjohn posted:

FWIW, I expanded my Module Mod thread to include multi-engine modules.

Free Black or Orange Modules for Legacy

If you have old White modules, you can use those to create engine modules to save configurations to.  The white modules can't be converted to black modules as they only have one chip, but they make dandy multi-engine modules.  You can also, of course, use them for a single engine module to replace a Legacy Orange Module.

Your late!  LOL!  Thanks for posting the link John.

@MartyE posted:

Your late!  LOL!  Thanks for posting the link John.

Better late than never.

Marty, thanks, I will bt\ring my legacy units for upgrade to York.

Just be sure that you are there at the right time so as not to waste time or miss out on the upgrade. Remember that Marty and John are doing this with what time they have available, so make sure you know where they are, and what time to be there.

Marty,

Thanks for your kind offer. I will plan to stop by on Thursday.

Denis

I would be interested, but unfortunately probably not going to make the time frames. Really great for you guys to offer your knowledge and time !!

OK everyone.  I am looking to firm up the folks that are coming and when.  We have a definite on Thursday.  If I don't have anyone showing up Friday I just assume shop but am more than happy to do upgrades as long as I know you're coming by.

So far we @dennis32 (need a day) and @DENIS ORAVEC 110218 on Thursday.

Dennis32 for Thursday if available. Thank you.

2 for Thursday.  No one on Friday as of now!  Thanks @dennis32

@MartyE posted:

2 for Thursday.  No one on Friday as of now!  Thanks @dennis32

Hi MartyE - Please count me in for Thursday!

Just confirming - I should bring the base, remote, and cords?

@Prr7688 posted:

Hi MartyE - Please count me in for Thursday!

Just confirming - I should bring the base, remote, and cords?

Just base and remote. I’ll have a power supply.

Marty,

Thanks for doing this.  I have a base and remote I would like updated on Friday.  When is the best time for you so you can get maximum shopping in?

Hi Marty:

This is a very kind and generous offer.  Do you have any openings early Friday afternoon.  I would like to have my base and both remotes upgraded.  If not, what times do you have available on Friday?

Thanks,

Don

@CAPPilot posted:

Marty,

Thanks for doing this.  I have a base and remote I would like updated on Friday.  When is the best time for you so you can get maximum shopping in?

@DGJONES posted:

Hi Marty:

This is a very kind and generous offer.  Do you have any openings early Friday afternoon.  I would like to have my base and both remotes upgraded.  If not, what times do you have available on Friday?

Thanks,

Don

11:30 am works best for me.  If that doesn't work, @gunrunnerjohn will be at Hennings with upgrade modules.  I'm usually ready for a break at 11:30 so that's best.

Hi Marty,  I’ll have a base and remote for upgrade.  Schedule me at your convenience; I’ll be there both days.  

Thanks,

David

I will plan to see you at 11:30 on Friday with one base and two remotes.

Thanks,

Don

I'll have upgrade modules and I'll toss in my Legacy power supply so you don't have to lug that.   I don't have room at the Henning's booth to have a computer, etc., so I'll just be doing upgrades, not making modules.

OK let's wrap this up. 

I'll be doing a 1/2 hour each session on Thursday at 3:30 PM and Friday at 11:30 AM to the right of the Orange Hall lobby near the meeting rooms.

Right now it doesn't appear we'll be making any modules but I'll have my PC just in case.  If you need modules made you will have to supply 2 writable modules.  I don't have any.  If you are bringing your Base and Remote I'll have a power supply with me.  We'll test them (make sure they boot and communicate with each other) before you leave.

If you miss me see @gunrunnerjohn post right above.

I'll check here to see if anyone jumps in but it looks like maybe 3 or 4 folks each day.

@MartyE posted:

I'll be doing a 1/2 hour each session on Thursday at 3:30 PM and Friday at 11:30 AM to the right of the Orange Hall lobby near the meeting rooms.

I will be there with two sets.

Marty,

Thanks for taking the time to perform the upgrades on my Lionel base and Cab this afternoon. Your assistance is greatly appreciated.

Denis

I just had a couple people come by for updates, apparently Marty got most of them.

I had about 6 or 7 over both days.   I really enjoyed talking to everyone.   I'm happy to do it.  This is what the hobby is about, sharing what we can.  Happy railroading everyone.  See you in the spring!

Marty…..sorry that I missed you walking around this York……..I guess I will schedule an upgrade next time so we can catch up!

Peter

@Dougklink posted:

Ok, that makes sense.  I wasn't thinking about the system upgrades using modules.

So your the guy I have to blame when we had delivered an SD-45 with no heat…..I froze me.*ss off…..lmao

we at the PennCentral remember

@MartyE posted:

OK let's wrap this up.

I'll be doing a 1/2 hour each session on Thursday at 3:30 PM and Friday at 11:30 AM to the right of the Orange Hall lobby near the meeting rooms.

Right now it doesn't appear we'll be making any modules but I'll have my PC just in case.  If you need modules made you will have to supply 2 writable modules.  I don't have any.  If you are bringing your Base and Remote I'll have a power supply with me.  We'll test them (make sure they boot and communicate with each other) before you leave.

If you miss me see @gunrunnerjohn post right above.

I'll check here to see if anyone jumps in but it looks like maybe 3 or 4 folks each day.

Marty, this is a terrific thing you do for those people in the Hobby who updating the cab 2 can be quite scary Lionel, does not make anything easy with the direction books they put out. I remember when I did mine. I held my breath even though I’m extremely computer savvy. Again, Marty well done.

If you have to write the modules, it does take a little thinking, the actual update is really quick.  A minute or two and both pieces are updated!  Nowadays, finding the black modules seems to be the hardest thing.

The only stock I found is Amazon, and they wanted $50 for them!   Adding to the insult, they want $10 to ship it!  And, they only had one left, apparently people are actually paying $60 for these!

I still like my deal best.

Free Black or Orange Modules for Legacy

@Putnam Division posted:

Marty…..sorry that I missed you walking around this York……..I guess I will schedule an upgrade next time so we can catch up!

Peter

Sounds good Peter.  I was surprised that I missed so many people this go around.

Nope I didn't start with EMD until the SD50.... and they had great cab heaters.

Marty,

Thank you for taking the time to upgrade my two systems on Friday.   Your support to the hobby is outstanding!