Any PostWar items that haven't been re-produced?

Lionel has not done the #675/2025 or the Operating Dispatch Board.

 

Jon

I don't believe they have made a 155 bell ringing signal since then. I think they had a signal that looked real similar (sans bell though) in their last Flyer catalog.

 

And of course, how about Super O track?

 

J White

The Submarine Base. The AmFlyer Cow-on-Track. And just the other day, someone mentioned the Trailer Unloader. The flatcar has been made, but not the accessory. The turntable. Plus, there's other Military & Space items that have never been reproduced. As to returned favorites: the 464 Sawmill (first reissued as #2301).

The 3656 Cattle Car and Loading/Unloading Pen...

 

Granted it was/is a cantankerous accessory.  'Pinky Pokes' to get the moo-moos to moooooove from car to pen to car are almost SOP.  There have been well thought out suggestions...e.g., operating the car and pen at different voltage levels...to improve things, but it generally had more idiosynchrosies than, say, the milk car of the same era (1949-1950).

 

However, if we can now figure out how to synchronize puffs of smoke through a whistle, surely the same brains could figure out an improvement to an otherwise iconic accessory from the PW years.

 

After all, the horsey car and corral has been re-issued.  The originals and re-issues have both worked reasonably well.  Yes,no?

 

FWIW, always...

 

KD

The 675/2025 PRR K-4 was very labor intensive to assemble, as anyone who's worked on one can testify. But the linkage looked better than any other PW steamer, the spur motor is indestructible, and the design proportions gave it a massive appearance. I don't expect Lionel to make it again, but I wish Williams would (as the 4-6-2 it's supposed to be).

 

 

I agree.

Concerning the K-4 tooling, from what I have picked up on through the years, it's been noted that the tooling was so modified to create the 1980/81 re-issues that it was rendered useless. This does make sense when you consider that the tooling was cut up and used in the set mentioned earlier.

 

The 8007 (New Haven), and the 8001 (Nickel Plate), were offered in 1980, and the 8007 was part of the New Englander set from 1980 and 81.

 

These engines were made at a time when MPC was looking to expand the use of DC

power by offering it in more than just entry level engines. Other examples of this included the James Gang set engine, the 8008 Chessie, and the original plan for the 8066 TP & W GP-20. The 8066 was made late with a pullmor AC motor.

 

On my "one of these days list" I would like to retrofit my 8001 and 8007 with a rectifier so I can use them on my layout. The are good looking engines with nice detailing and a firebox glow light.

 

 

Ken

How about the 3619 HELICOPTER RECONNAISSANCE CAR.

 

I am waiting for a remake.

 

GG1GUYY 

Hijacking the thread a bit - but I'll add:

 

I added the 8007 to my PRR by Lionel collection.  Primarily because it is based on the Lionel PRR 675/2025/2035.  Many years ago I added a Lionel -103 electronic reverse unit to the engine.

 

Like others mentioned it was Lionel's largest plastic "O" steamer.  Smoke, chuff (sort of), 'firebox glow', Baldwin Disc (plastic inserts).  Removable plastic boiler front with those 'fragile' lights.  Kinda neat actually.  Some linkage was left off but I've often considered adding it myself.

 

The original 675 series is rather difficult to service, compared to say, a 671 or 736 or 2046.

 

I would like to see it again.  China could probably do it without too much difficulty.

KRA, A 15.00 electronic reverse unit 0107 type would only take you 5 minutes to install!

And of course the 447 cannon set has yet to be remade.

The green 2400 series passenger cars and the pyro military vehicles on the 6800-serie flat cars would be something I would buy.

The #182 crane and I don't believe the Tiejector car has been reissued in its original form.

Joe

If they do reissue the USMC set, I would hope they will have the Pyro loads in Olive Drab instead of gray. This would not hurt the value of the original set, and yet be 'new' and 'old' both!

If they do re-issue the Tie Jector ( the reruns were poor sellers and not that great. Personally I think the time has passed on these.) they would have to come up with a Fastrack trip piece or track. 

One item which I have been looking to be reproduced is the 6357-50 A.T.&S.F. caboose. Every item from this 1960 set has been done except this one.  I have purchased the 6517 caboose to complete the set, but the 6357-50 would be great.   

In the early fifties, Gilbert made a bridge with a rotating beacon on top of the bridge. Plus, one of my favorite accessories was the two in one whistling billboard.

How about the 253 automatic block signal ?  Early original in black, or the more common tan base one.

I am still waiting for the USMC Pyro Load Flat Cars....Dont know if we will see them. The Pyro tooling is owned by Smittys Toy Train Parts I beleive. They re did the vehicles but not the tanks.

 

There are a few other items that have not been done. We will see.............

Me too. 

 

So close a few years ago when they included it in a C&O set.  Shame it got cancelled. 

 

-Dave

How about the 156 station platform with the metal advertising signs. The modern station platforms look more like the later 157 platforms and don't look as nice IMO.

the original PW 0-4-0 switchers - I don't know if they are able to b/c I think the mold was changed for the 1615, etc

 

The 224/1666/2026 - again, not sure if it's possible now

 

Road names - The NW2 as 6220/622/623 Santa Fe

 

I believe all the F3s FMs & GPs have been done

 

The EP5 - Milw

 

A lot of the 200 series ALCos haven't been done, along w/ the 44 tonners & the 600 series switchers

 

Rolling stock - the 6111 flatcar w/ pipes/logs

X2458 PRR double Door boxcar

6472/6482 reefer car

 

I'm sure there are more

 

There were also cars re made, but not in the original road names

6656 stock car for example

Don't forget the #214 whistle and #218 horn sheds..Also that very cool big oversized signal man.  #257 platform station with horn #138 water tower

Joe 

Didn't Lionel make new dies for reissuing their PRR B6?  If LLionel really wanted to reissue the 625 they could make new....improved....dies.  Odd-d

Love the idea of the 622/6220 and 623 in Santa Fe  Wouldn't hurt to do them in N Y Central either. Same black plastic body.

 

Ed Boyle

The 460 Piggyback Loader. Fortunately, mine is still in excellent condition from when I was a kid. It was my favorite operating accessory because it was hands-on and semi-realistic. It's on my layout.

 

Have the 6257/6357 cabooses been reproduced in their original trim? I've been trying to put together a repro version of a set that came with the 2338 Milwaukee Road Geep, and I haven't found a repro caboose for it. Likewise the red NYC gondola with barrels - I forget the number but I haven't seen that one in PWC either. Another one that I think might have been done but I've never seen one is the State of Maine operating boxcar with the man in the doorway.

 

My favorite repros are the airplane car and the barrel unloading car. I wanted both of those when I was a kid, never got them, and now I have the repros. 

I think they did a 622 as NYC back in 97. I know it was cataloged, not sure if it was made

The 2457 caboose hasn't been done either

>>Didn't Lionel make new dies for reissuing their PRR B6?<<

 

In 1889 LTI reissued the B-6 with RS using seriously worn out original boiler tooling.

Two runs were made. the second a bit more shiny but both used originaltooling from 1936. The tender may have been retooled.

Joe 

I believe Lionel did the NYC 622 in 1997 with TMCC and RailSounds.

 

One item that hasn't been reproduced from the postwar era that comes to mind, for obvious reasons: the battery-operated #375 turntable of 1962.

 

The green 2400 cars were re-issued in the LTI years as the Great Lakes Express set.

 

 

I think all of the 622 series was done, including the C&O and Seaboard.

love that modern "Great Lakes Express" Passenger Set. I like these better than the postwar ones.

I think the "modern" era has produced a lot more variety than the postwar era ever had? And a lot of good re-issues and reproductions.

There was a modern version of the water tower in 1996 (6-12916).  At least the general form was the same (colors are I think slightly different on the tank and maybe the roof). 

 

(I'm not a PW enthusiast in terms of the specific differences for very similar items, but a quick search mentioned the 138 specifically having a plastic base while the earlier models had die cast.  If that is what was meant, then I think you would be right, it has not been redone in that exact form.)

 

-Dave

The whistle and horn sheds were the first MPC-produced accessories.  The cast-base #138 was reproduced in 1997.  The flagman has been done two or three times.  He never sells well.

 

Jon

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If they do re-issue the Tie Jector ( the reruns were poor sellers and not that great. Personally I think the time has passed on these.) they would have to come up with a Fastrack trip piece or track. 

 

I purchased the first re-issue on a pre-order. It was dissapointing because they went with a can motor, and changed some of the metal parts to plastic.

I would consider purchasing a reproduction tie-jector if they made it the same way the postwar one was made.

 

 

Yes, the Marine Alco and flats with the pyro military loads would be one I would jump at.

On the re-run Tie Jector, there was more metal in the track trip than the car!

the designers felt they needed to re-invent the wheel with this car. There are twice as many parts in the ejecting mechanism than the original, when the original version worked fine.

The A-B Texas Special F3s with the "shorty"  passenger cars has never been done.  

 

Norm