Any updates on Lionel's 2016 Volume 2 Catalog?

The recent FEF-3 detail issues have really cooled any interest I would have in commiting to buy any new Lionel regardless of price, until after seeing the actual delivered product.

Sometimes I think people are seeing things that aren't there when in reality they are re-manufacturing the same previously tooled products. They just replace the electronics, upgrade the sound, and maybe add an extra smoke gadget.  And that's ok,  We get something we missed out on a while back and they can make a decent buck. (If it is done right or previous egregious errors are corrected).

 This could be a good thing for something like the Niagara because we've seen it before.  An actual previous positive example of this was the recent 4-12-2 re-release.

If they are going to restore some goodwill they are going to have to deliver a real winner.  I think they're capable of it (Milwaukee Rd 261 comes to mind). I'll wait and see.

how about an ace 3000

Time for some SP Daylight F-3's w/Legacy. Was a hot item when they came out in the 80's. Haven't been made since. 

paigetrain posted:

how about an ace 3000

Are you prepared to order/reserve one if any manufacturer announces an O Scale model of the ACE 3000?

Canadian, steam era Canadian.

Water Scoop effects?  On 3R O, where the hot rail is in the middle

Hope the postwar inspired green O27 cars are in this catalog.

I'd like to see the ES44AC.....................

Regards, Swafford

John Pignatelli JR. posted:

I want one,  however if they increase the prices then I will pass,  retired now,  got to be careful on amount of train purchases.  I need to be more Frugal. 

more cool signiture train sets 

maybe a long train set pulled by 2 modern locomotives and has 5-7 cars

It would be nice to finally see the catalog countdown clock in action.  Instead, Lionel is celebrating Benjamin Harrison's birthday...lol. jk 

USA "1776" Hoppers....................

It would be great if the LionScale AFC 70-Ton 2-bay covered hopper would be produced in 1970's era paint schemes for ILLNOIS CENTRAL GULF, THE ROCK, BURLINGTON NORTHERN, and SOO LINE.

I d like to see some modern Amtrak, stuff in use today

LIONEL posted:

Time for some SP Daylight F-3's w/Legacy. Was a hot item when they came out in the 80's. Haven't been made since. 

Agree. It's also quite remarkable that Lionel hasn't done any scale Legacy F-3 Warbonnets yet. 

Legacy NYC unstreamlined  J3a Hudson.

NEC Runner posted:

I d like to see some modern Amtrak, stuff in use today

I second that.   The new ACS64 electric motors and some Viewliners.  

Illinois central, 

city of Miami, 4-6-2 Panama limited or my favorite the green diamond 

City of Miami would be incredibly cool!  

Amtrak ACS64 with Legacy would be very much appreciated over here!!

Also the new Amtrak baggage cars if not a whole set of view liners. It would also be great to see the Superliners re run in phase 3 & 5 paint. 

breezinup posted:

LIONEL posted:

Time for some SP Daylight F-3's w/Legacy. Was a hot item when they came out in the 80's. Haven't been made since. 

Agree. It's also quite remarkable that Lionel hasn't done any scale Legacy F-3 Warbonnets yet. 

Actually they did make a set of Warbonnets in legacy around 2010 or so. http://www.lionel.com/products...333-dmy-2335-6-34573

How about Canadian Pacific 2816?!

Peter Araujo posted:

How about Canadian Pacific 2816?!

That would be great. But I think a better chance of getting one would be from MTH since they already offer the streamlined CP 4-6-4.

Trainlover9943 posted:

breezinup posted:

LIONEL posted:

Time for some SP Daylight F-3's w/Legacy. Was a hot item when they came out in the 80's. Haven't been made since. 

Agree. It's also quite remarkable that Lionel hasn't done any scale Legacy F-3 Warbonnets yet. 

Actually they did make a set of Warbonnets in legacy around 2010 or so. http://www.lionel.com/products...333-dmy-2335-6-34573

Well spotted - I for one missed that set but it will almost certainly have the early Legacy boards. I reckon they are saving the F3s for a Vision Line issue; I don't think that will be in this catalog.

Hancock52 posted:

Well spotted - I for one missed that set but it will almost certainly have the early Legacy boards. I reckon they are saving the F3s for a Vision Line issue; I don't think that will be in this catalog.

Here are mine.  Bought an extra B unit and it looks great and pulls a lot!

Marty,

I like the shelves you've added to the side of your layout. What type and dimension lumber are you using?

Cheers!

Keith

Hancock52 posted:

Trainlover9943 posted:

breezinup posted:

LIONEL posted:

Time for some SP Daylight F-3's w/Legacy. Was a hot item when they came out in the 80's. Haven't been made since. 

Agree. It's also quite remarkable that Lionel hasn't done any scale Legacy F-3 Warbonnets yet. 

Actually they did make a set of Warbonnets in legacy around 2010 or so. http://www.lionel.com/products...333-dmy-2335-6-34573

Well spotted - I for one missed that set but it will almost certainly have the early Legacy boards. I reckon they are saving the F3s for a Vision Line issue; I don't think that will be in this catalog.

Nope. These are not the scale versions. These were from the Postwar scale series. As the catalog states, they are based on the Postwar decor versions of the F-3s. They are not the real scale versions like the previous TMCC scale ones Lionel did.

They are decorated like Lionel's Postwar versions, with the same abbreviated features; for example, they don't have proper MARS lights, they don't have the proper yellow paint striping that goes up over the top of the hood to the windshield, etc. 

Peter Araujo posted:

How about Canadian Pacific 2816?!

Weaver actually made a model of the Empress a number of years ago. They are hard to find. A Legacy version might be nice.

One of these would be nice.

Rock Island F7 ABA Set would be great!

Regards,

Swafford

breezinup posted:

Nope. These are not the scale versions. These were from the Postwar scale series. As the catalog states, they are based on the Postwar decor versions of the F-3s. They are not the real scale versions like the previous TMCC scale ones Lionel did.

They are decorated like Lionel's Postwar versions, with the same abbreviated features; for example, they don't have proper MARS lights, they don't have the proper yellow paint striping that goes up over the top of the hood to the windshield, etc. 

Unfortunately they are the only SF F3s Lionel has done in Legacy.  You take what you can get sometimes.

Looks like a copy of the catalog has found its way onto e*ay already:

ed h posted:

Looks like a copy of the catalog has found its way onto e*ay already:

 

 

I was hoping the Niagara would make the cover 

There seems to be something about a big K-4... Maybe a K-4 with the long distance tender

The real question is... Will it get the "big engine" price with the long distance tender?

Hmmm, maybe the Niagara will be in the 2017 vol1 catalog?

This would make sense as all of the "really big" announcements are made in the vol1 of each year.

 Curious,is the k4 long distance tender the same as the m1b minus the doghouse?

Not a bad price... Street price should be under $1000

MartyE posted:

breezinup posted:

Nope. These are not the scale versions. These were from the Postwar scale series. As the catalog states, they are based on the Postwar decor versions of the F-3s. They are not the real scale versions like the previous TMCC scale ones Lionel did.

They are decorated like Lionel's Postwar versions, with the same abbreviated features; for example, they don't have proper MARS lights, they don't have the proper yellow paint striping that goes up over the top of the hood to the windshield, etc. 

Unfortunately they are the only SF F3s Lionel has done in Legacy.  You take what you can get sometimes.

Yes, sometimes. I decided to wait, though. Hard to believe, but it's been 9 years since the last Santa Fe scale Fs were offered (F-7s cataloged in 2007).  The Warbonnets are Lionel icons, so it would seem they can't space them too far apart. It's reasonable to think Legacy Warbonnets should be along any time now.

BigJohn&theWork posted:

Not a bad price... Street price should be under $1000

I guess what your opinion of bad is. The last run with the standard tender sold for just over $700. David will be all over this one.

Now you have an o-36 Loco that requires an o-54 radius because of the large tender. This will narrow the market substantially

Hold out and wait for the discounts on these next year.

RickO posted:

BigJohn&theWork posted:

Not a bad price... Street price should be under $1000

I guess what your opinion of bad is. The last run with the standard tender went for around $700.

Now you have an 0-36 Loco that may require an o-54 radius because of the large tender.

Hold out and wait for the discounts on these next year.

I got my legacy K-4 New in the box on eBay last year at a steal for $400 so I guess the costs will ofset

I don't think it's too bad...

A lot of things were cheaper in 2011! Heck look at the vision line offerings in 2011! And I could care less about the radius it will require. Anyone complaining about radius requirements on a scale item should probably stick to running lion chief anyway.