ANYONE FOR NEW TANKERS?

No. I like "old" tank cars from the steam era.

Hot Water posted:

No. I like "old" tank cars from the steam era.

Same here. Pretty much confined to 8000 and 11,000 gal. types from the steam/early diesel era. Really like all the colors and interesting logos on these earlier cars, and they fit into smaller layouts much better, of course.

For ultra-large modern tankers, you might check out some of the earlier Atlas O offerings on the secondary market - they did some large, modern tankers, I believe.

Weaver ?

I would love to see more scale sorty beer can tank cars of the 8k type. MTH's have high waters and limited to a few logos.

breezinup posted:

Hot Water posted:

No. I like "old" tank cars from the steam era.

Same here. Pretty much confined to 8000 and 11,000 gal. types from the steam/early diesel era.

I hope Alan gets his wish but I too prefer the late steam era.  Specifically I like to see a car in the older Hooker paint scheme.

I bet those MTH would look good lowered down to Kadee level, and weathered. To bad they make it difficult.

I don't know what the capacity is,but yes Weaver did have some nice tankers. Maybe Lionel will pick them up & add modern schemes?

Al Hummel

That's true they would look pretty good if more scale detail were added also.

Al Hummel

Steam era 8000 &10000 gallon dirty black tankers are the stuff of fond memories for this old soul...

Bob

Yep...if it's the wine-o's....the multi-dome (e.g., 6-domer) tankers emblazoned with winery names....

TMK, they've only been done by folks like Sunset 3rd Rail.  I should think they'd be as popular and 'ripe' for special runs of private distilleries....like the  ubiquitous, never-ending plethora of beer reefers!! 

Hey, in this day-and-age of home-brews, craft-brews, etc., etc.,.......why not?

The domer the better.......IMHO, of course!

KD

.....another 'dome' idea.

Agree.  Don't care for modern trains.

Alan,

I would like to see modern tank cars in O-Scale, preferably those used for transporting crude oil. I don’t like models of obsolete tank cars.

Thanks,

Naveen Rajan

I would like to see modern tank cars in O-Scale, preferably those used for transporting crude oil. I don’t like models of obsolete tank cars.

Well, over on the "Real Trains" forum there was a thread entitled "CSX Having A Bad Week", in which was a comment...

"Why does it seem that most of the derailments are tank cars with hazardous materials and it's always near a residential neighborhood?"

So....seems to me that a train of 6-domers full of vino would not only have a better reputation, but a derailment thereof would be...PARTY TIME!!!!!

I mean, in the spirit of Lionel's quest for animation, awesome sound, quitchy-catchy-corny, maybe the next round of modern tankers should be....VISION LINE!?!?! 

After all, we've had 'break-down' and 'hot-box' rolling disasters, why not a set of modern tankers that randomly come to a halt accordian-style, complete with sound of sirens/explosions, screams of neighborhood evacuees fleeing for their lives, smoke generators pumping out plumes of  fumes, flashes of light, ......etc., etc., etc..

Nah.  New tankers?.......make mine vintage!

KD

I'm in for modern too. I bought the Atlas release of the Occidental Chem. cars last time and like how they look. I believe I have all the brands of modern now. There are some models I still have not bought yet. I try to imagine that they are all still currently running. It's always funny when a modern car comes with older style trucks!

 Lionel has some nice looking cars too although they can be tougher to make into 2 rail versions.

dkdkrd posted:

I would like to see modern tank cars in O-Scale, preferably those used for transporting crude oil. I don’t like models of obsolete tank cars.

Well, over on the "Real Trains" forum there was a thread entitled "CSX Having A Bad Week", in which was a comment...

"Why does it seem that most of the derailments are tank cars with hazardous materials and it's always near a residential neighborhood?"

So....seems to me that a train of 6-domers full of vino would not only have a better reputation, but a derailment thereof would be...PARTY TIME!!!!!

I mean, in the spirit of Lionel's quest for animation, awesome sound, quitchy-catchy-corny, maybe the next round of modern tankers should be....VISION LINE!?!?! 

After all, we've had 'break-down' and 'hot-box' rolling disasters, why not a set of modern tankers that randomly come to a halt accordian-style, complete with sound of sirens/explosions, screams of neighborhood evacuees fleeing for their lives, smoke generators pumping out plumes of  fumes, flashes of light, ......etc., etc., etc..

Nah.  New tankers?.......make mine vintage!

KD

Wow, I bet you won't fly on a plane after watching the news then.

I wonder how many tank cars moves are without incident?

I pulled tank cars or hazardous cars all over the railroad 160 miles a day five or 6 days a week for 37 years and never had one derail on the mainline but the reason it seems like tanks always derail, mite be because most all frieght trains have tank cars in them. 

dkdkrd posted:

I would like to see modern tank cars in O-Scale, preferably those used for transporting crude oil. I don’t like models of obsolete tank cars.

Well, over on the "Real Trains" forum there was a thread entitled "CSX Having A Bad Week", in which was a comment...

"Why does it seem that most of the derailments are tank cars with hazardous materials and it's always near a residential neighborhood?"

So....seems to me that a train of 6-domers full of vino would not only have a better reputation, but a derailment thereof would be...PARTY TIME!!!!!

I mean, in the spirit of Lionel's quest for animation, awesome sound, quitchy-catchy-corny, maybe the next round of modern tankers should be....VISION LINE!?!?! 

After all, we've had 'break-down' and 'hot-box' rolling disasters, why not a set of modern tankers that randomly come to a halt accordian-style, complete with sound of sirens/explosions, screams of neighborhood evacuees fleeing for their lives, smoke generators pumping out plumes of  fumes, flashes of light, ......etc., etc., etc..

Nah.  New tankers?.......make mine vintage!

KD

I won’t be using my 2-rail cars to haul crude oil & I don’t think you would use models of your obsolete tank cars to haul wine around your layout. So I care about capturing the looks of the cars I see around me, in 2-rail, not the commodity, the real cars carried . But obsolete tank cars look weird with their ugly rivets, goofy-looking trucks & 1 or more vertical expansion dome (s), so big that they look like something from an old Tom & Jerry cartoon when Tom gets bumps on his head.

These are just my opinion,

Thanks,

Naveen Rajan

Doug-Sr posted:

I pulled tank cars or hazardous cars all over the railroad 160 miles a day five or 6 days a week for 37 years and never had one derail on the mainline but the reason it seems like tanks always derail, mite be because most all freight trains have tank cars in them. 

That was the thought that occurred to me. Besides, out of the thousands of tank cars that travel every day, and the handful that derail, and the even smaller amount that break, how many actually have something that would require a town to evacuate? Right -- an insignificant number when you look at the overall. The only reason it makes news is because it's so unusual.

ANYONE FOR NEW TANKERS?

No

Speaking of tankers, does anyone know where I can get plans for the prr tm1 and tm2 whale belly super tankers?

The Atlas N scale and HO scale Kaolin tank cars have not been made in O scale.

The Kaolin Tank Cars would be good for the late 1970's to the present day.

Andrew

I am modeling 1940, so I am not a customer for "new" tankcars on roller bearing trucks.....but want those "goofy" trucks mentioned above, along with black GATX and UTLX 8-12000 gallon ones, AND a Frontier Oil tank car or cars, and for those other defunct regional oil companies  from that pre-WWII period.  Modern?  As I've heard in eastern Kentucky, "I ain't buyin' nair'n".  As for wine cars for new brands, since Atlas generally stayed away from fantasy cars for reefers, maybe they can be entrusted to NOT build any fantasy tank cars?  I can be entrusted to not buy any.  (but it is a nuisance to have to do the research to see if the thing is a model of a real car or not)

Any body keeping score?

Na, us modern guys don't count the number of posts about older eras.

breezinup posted: ....For ultra-large modern tankers, you might check out some of the earlier Atlas O offerings on the secondary market - they did some large, modern tankers, I believe.

And ... more are due in late this year ....  ATLAS 25,500 TANK CARS

I think big modern tankers are cool, along with big modern diesels. But, I'm another that has to keep my equipment lengths modest.

Modern tankers? Yes Please!!! Along with modern Reefers - another massive gap in the O Scale market.

I'd be in for a few UTLX X3 tankers if they were accurately done.

Not much else interests me except for maybe an inexpensive (under $150) GATX span bolster tank car for the outdoor layout...  or a PRR "Rail Whale".

prrhorseshoecurve posted:

Speaking of tankers, does anyone know where I can get plans for the prr tm1 and tm2 whale belly super tankers?

Have you checked with the Pennsy historical society?  That would be my first try.

prrhorseshoecurve posted:

Speaking of tankers, does anyone know where I can get plans for the prr tm1 and tm2 whale belly super tankers?

TM1 --> http://prr.railfan.net/diagram...nk&sz=sm&fr=

Erik C Lindgren posted:

LOL. I have that kit, but finding an appropriate beer can has not gone well. The old beer cans have become collectibles in their own right and modern cans don't have the right contours.

I still think the OGR needs a forum for "What I Want" so the manufacturers can go right to that thread and pick up all their marketing information for free.  It would certainly help centralize the wants and desires of the O gauge community.  Maybe even have a pull down box for you to enter how many you would buy and what road names.

aussteve posted:

I still think the OGR needs a forum for "What I Want" so the manufacturers can go right to that thread and pick up all their marketing information for free.  It would certainly help centralize the wants and desires of the O gauge community.  Maybe even have a pull down box for you to enter how many you would buy and what road names.

In my opinion, the manufacturers really could care less about "What I want." threads on the OGR Forums. The manufacturers learn a LOT more from their dealers, and from direct contact with customer at all the various "Toy Train Shows" across the nation. Those Worlds Greatest Hobby shows are FULL of information, and they are ALWAYS packed!

Hot Water posted:

aussteve posted:

I still think the OGR needs a forum for "What I Want" so the manufacturers can go right to that thread and pick up all their marketing information for free.  It would certainly help centralize the wants and desires of the O gauge community.  Maybe even have a pull down box for you to enter how many you would buy and what road names.

In my opinion, the manufacturers really could care less about "What I want." threads on the OGR Forums. The manufacturers learn a LOT more from their dealers, and from direct contact with customer at all the various "Toy Train Shows" across the nation. Those Worlds Greatest Hobby shows are FULL of information, and they are ALWAYS packed!

Oh, I think that they might learn a lot about their customers..........

If they provided what people actually want, they might get even more customers...!! Rather a radical idea, I know, but worth a shot, maybe??!!??

SundayShunter posted:

If they provided what people actually want, they might get even more customers...!! Rather a radical idea, I know, but worth a shot, maybe??!!??

Well, they could do that if the 22 people that want something specific were willing to pick up the tab for all of the production costs and a smidge of profit...... 

Wait.  Maybe those same 22 people should just go into business for themselves.......

Steam era 8000 &10000 gallon dirty black tankers are the stuff of fond memories for this old soul...

I am with Bob! plain black 8000 gal by the dozens please

CAPPilot posted:

breezinup posted:

Hot Water posted:

No. I like "old" tank cars from the steam era.

Same here. Pretty much confined to 8000 and 11,000 gal. types from the steam/early diesel era.

I hope Alan gets his wish but I too prefer the late steam era.  Specifically I like to see a car in the older Hooker paint scheme.

Atlas O did this one a number of years ago. It was a special run for Petersen Supply. Probably pretty hard to find now, but you can keep an eye out for one. I run mine next to an orange Hooker tank car - they look interesting together.

Doug-Sr posted:

I pulled tank cars or hazardous cars all over the railroad 160 miles a day five or 6 days a week for 37 years and never had one derail on the mainline but the reason it seems like tanks always derail, mite be because most all frieght trains have tank cars in them. 

99% of all derailments don't make the news because no one gets hurt and there is no significant property damage.   Let one catch fire or spill its guts and all the world starts reporting.