Wow... okay then. MTH can make remotes but they refuse to do so even though their customers want them. I’m not sure how that’s better?
@Madockawando posted:MTH or whatever is left of MTH, will no longer have the capability to manufacture the remotes.
They are obviously still pumping out new locomotives & rolling stock. If they wanted to, a new remote could also be built. What is your source for "will no longer have the capability"?
@Madockawando posted:Wow... okay then. MTH can make remotes but they refuse to do so even though their customers want them. I’m not sure how that’s better?
How many customers??? Like it was stated earlier 40 maybe 50 from this thread? Let's just speculate and triple those numbers, the profitability still isn't there. How many of those 40 to 50 will cancel their orders when they realize a new remote will cost $400 Just so MTH can turn a profit?
MTH runs a business not a charity. A pithy order of 300 remotes doesn't make enough money unless the price for those remotes are well beyond what people are willing to pay. A DCS remote with an MSRP of $350 will price MTH out of business.
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@H1000 posted:They are obviously still pumping out new locomotives & rolling stock. If they wanted to, a new remote could also be built. What is your source for "will no longer have the capability"?
How many customers??? Like it was stated earlier 40 maybe 50 from this thread? Let's just speculate and triple those numbers, the profitability still isn't there. How many of those 40 to 50 will cancel their orders when they realize a new remote will cost $400 Just so MTH can turn a profit?
MTH runs a business not a charity. A pithy order of 300 remotes doesn't make enough money unless the price for those remote are well beyond what people are willing to pay. A DCS remote with an MSRP of $350 will price MTH out of business.
You raise an interesting point, does this mean that remotes are “loss leaders” for train companies?
@Madockawando posted:You raise an interesting point, does this mean that remotes are “loss leaders” for train companies?
If you want to have that discussion, start a new post on the forum.
No new remotes, the reason isn’t technology, the reason appears to be financial. There is no profit in selling handheld remotes. Very interesting.
@Mellow Hudson Mike posted:Define "Trolling".
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Yep, I'm outta' here, this is clearly a circular discussion and is approaching ridiculous! 
There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See!
Another thread (like the one about Atlas acquiring MTH tooling) that has started to turn into "Haters gonna hate".
I think there are some folks that either just like to watch the world burn or are such Lionel fanboys and that they can't stand to see anyone else compete in the market. I don't get it.
Hey guys... I don't want to get into or rekindle the arguments about MTH remotes, so please don't go there. Just wanted to point out that the Amazon Fire basic tablet is currently on sale for about $35 - if you have DCS wi-fi capability and need a controller, this is the cheapest remote you'll ever find. Not only is it cheap (and disposable), but unlike the DCS handheld, it is AVAILABLE.
I have no financial interest in Amazon, or DCS. I just want to help people run trains.
@Mallard4468 posted:Hey guys... I don't want to get into or rekindle the arguments about MTH remotes, so please don't go there. Just wanted to point out that the Amazon Fire basic tablet is currently on sale for about $35 - if you have DCS wi-fi capability and need a controller, this is the cheapest remote you'll ever find. Not only is it cheap (and disposable), but unlike the DCS handheld, it is AVAILABLE.
I have no financial interest in Amazon, or DCS. I just want to help people run trains.
Nice! I already have the Apple version of software so I'm set into the Apple domain but this is a good solution for those on the Android platform! Thanks for posting!
@Mallard4468 posted:but unlike the DCS handheld, it is AVAILABLE.
There are plenty of DCS remotes available at many retailers. My LHS thought it would be a good idea to buy a couple dozen and now he sits with most of them in stock. Trainworld also has them in stock: DCS Remote from Trainworld.
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