I have a hard time with the MTH roller bearing trucks that come on the premier line. I've tried to disasemble the trucks to remove the coupler so I can put Kadees on, and , well, it's a pain in the butt. Actually , even wore than that. I'd rather just purchase MTH trucks with no couplers. But are they available?
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I've only seen the scale wheeled ones that way. You're right. You do have to go through some major hoops to remove the couplers.
I've tried taking them apart a couple times and that was a disaster. The last time I finally got them back together with ALL the springs in place.
Now, they get the Dremel and a cutoff disc, but that's not even easy.
I've never seen 3R MTH trucks w/o the couplers. You either have to cut them apart or replace with Atlas or Lionel trucks.
You get the mounting holes for the KD boxes on the car but you are right when it comes to removing that darn coupler from the truck. Not easy at all.
Originally Posted by Tom Densel:
Are these what you are looking for? I have 2 sets (4 trucks) Email me if you can use them.
Tom
I'd rather just purchase MTH trucks with no couplers. But are they available?
David
Try putting 3 rail wheel sets in MTH 2 rail trucks. The 2 rail truck is much simpler and is designed to not interfere with a Kadee draft gear box.
Tom,
thank you for your offer but unfortunately I need a whole bunch.
I think I am going to try Teds suggestion.
I don't understand the problem. I have been quickly removing the claw from MTH trucks for years, and don't seem to have any trouble. First I tear-off that sheet metal coupler operating stuff, then I break-off the die cast side ears with a strong pair of pliers. Lastly I cut cut-off the remaining die cast stuff using a pair of extra-heavy duty SnapOn side-cutters (they have REALLY long handles, so you can apply lots of force for cutting). Only takes a minute or two.
"These are the older style 3-rail trucks that MTH used to make. Removing the couplers from these is not hard, but the more recent trucks are truly a bear to get the couplers off."
If I remember, on those older trucks, loosen one screw and the entire coupler assembly came off.
I don't understand the problem. I have been quickly removing the claw from MTH trucks for years, and don't seem to have any trouble. First I tear-off that sheet metal coupler operating stuff, then I break-off the die cast side ears with a strong pair of pliers. Lastly I cut cut-off the remaining die cast stuff using a pair of extra-heavy duty SnapOn side-cutters (they have REALLY long handles, so you can apply lots of force for cutting). Only takes a minute or two.
Last night, just for "Laughs and Grins" I took a couple of surplus trucks apart to remove the couplers. Disassembling is a piece of cake (pop the sideframes loose with the truck inside a plastic sandwich bag so the springs stay somewhere you can find them.
Reassembling takes quite a while as you have to put the springs back (I thread dental floss through them just in case they pop. Just about all of the re-assembly time is consumed putting the springs back. Hot Water's method takes a lot less time, though I use a Dremel with a cut-off wheel.
By the way, Ted's suggestion is a great idea. The 2-rail replacement trucks are surprisingly easy to work with. Just be careful moving the frames so the springs don't go flying.
I often remove the attached couplers when I need RB trucks for my custom built flatcars. It is very easy. Just loosen one of the small machine screws that hold the truck together (but do not remove) and then remove the screw holding the coupler to the truck. This then allows the coupler to be removed.
I don't know if MTH sells the springs separately. But, if one doesn't try to take the truck apart,,,,,,,the springs will not fly out.
Buy Kadee coupler centring springs. They're the right size and stiff enough to hold up the car.
I've only seen the scale wheeled ones that way.
I don't know if anything has changed, but the 2 rail bettendorf caboose trucks I purchased, have a 3 rail coupler as part of the assembly.
I don't understand the problem. I have been quickly removing the claw from MTH trucks for years, and don't seem to have any trouble. First I tear-off that sheet metal coupler operating stuff, then I break-off the die cast side ears with a strong pair of pliers. Lastly I cut cut-off the remaining die cast stuff using a pair of extra-heavy duty SnapOn side-cutters (they have REALLY long handles, so you can apply lots of force for cutting). Only takes a minute or two.
Hot Water, I would really would like to see pics or a video doing this and what they look like afterward...
I've got several pairs of 3-rail MTH roller bearing trucks without couplers if anyone is interested-
Boy Jeff you dragged this thread out of no where. LOL. I saw your post on the buy/sell board. If they were friction bearing trucks I would go for them.