B&O passenger cars

Never seen any, I do not think anything was ever painted like that on a real passenger car in service. It was not one of my favorite B&O paint schemes. It may have been but I do not recall it and I am a B&O nut job.

John

John,

 

Just out of curiosity, were there ever any E8's lettered for both B&O and C&O with a matching paint scheme. The rear a-unit in my set is lettered for C&O but the front a-unit and the b-unit are lettered for B&O. Is this prototypical?

 

-skinorth

pretty sure you're looking for cars in this scheme to match that era.

 

Im working from memory here, but there was a point where B&O and C&O started painting the passenger equipment the same, before they actually became the Chessie System. Amtrak took over passenger service before the actual merger took place.

The paint scheme is real.  I've seen photos of B&O and C&O E8s together in this paint scheme.  MTH did do cars in RailKing to match these engines.

 

4-Car Set

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Add-on Coach

Add-on Full Vista Dome

After WWII, the C&O ordered many new streamlined passenger cars, more than they could afford. The B&O bought a number of these, including dome cars. They were already painted in C&O yellow/blue, and the B&O logos were added to each end. I have a set that MTH made (sitting in a closet). These are the ones shown by Bill, above.

Here's the paint scheme on a real locomotive, photo by Tom Arnold, 1968.

 

The cars behind it were often the B&O/C&O colors. One could even put others, as in this photo of the scheme on an Amtrak train in 1973. Photo by B&OBill.

 

Also note one is B&O, the other C&O.

The C&O took control of the B&O in the early 60's but the two roads operated more or less separately until the Chessie System was established. During the later part of the 60's the C&O and B&O started painting their E-8's in a simplified version of the C&O scheme. The only difference being the C&O or B&O letters on the side and the herald on the nose. As the repaints were done the C&O engines were renumbered into the B&O's passenger engine numbering system. There was some mixing of C&O and B&O E-8's as this point as I believe the number of C&O passenger trains shrunk faster than the B&O's freeing up the C&O engines for service elsewhere on the B&O.

 

C&O and B&O passenger cars started being painted in the C&O's tri-color scheme starting in the mid-60's except there was no roadname in the letterboard and either C&O or B&O heralds were placed at both ends of the car depending on which road's car it was. However, not all cars were repainted so trains of that era could have a mix of classic B&O blue and gray or C&O tri-color.

 

The MTH numbers for the tri-color cars are 30-67146, 30-67147, 30-6714, and  30-67149. But, it shouldn't be a problem to mix in some of the earlier B&O paint schemes into the consist.

 

Ken

I remember the yellow band pass car but they were the C&O influence which were not banded with any yellow on the engines just the  white and blue which was a boring paint scheme tome. I guess I was still miffed that they did away with the Blue/gray and black scheme from the fifties, my uncle who worked on the B&O kept telling me it did not mater the passenger cars where soon to disappear. The B&O Passenger service was the first to disappear in Philly,  the PRR had that rapped up.

Thanks for all of the help. This forum is such a great resource. I just ordered a set of the railking passenger cars from pat's trains at a very reasonable price. I am amazed by how many older mth products that they have brand new in stock.

 

-skinorth

I've never seen that design before.  I think it's quite attractive.  How about posting a photo or two when the cars arrive?

I'd be more than happy to post some pictures when they arrive. 

I finally got a chance to put the passenger cars on the layout today. It's a shame that MTH doesn't have a larger picture of their passenger cars on their website, the tiny pictures don't do these cars justice. These pictures were taken rather hastily so they're not the best.

Very nice looking.  Good job on solving your problem.  Enjoy then, as I am sure you will.....

I have a set of these, along with the E-8B unit.  I'm waiting for WBB to bring out a GP30 in B&O or Chessie/B&O paint to pull these.  In the meantime, I have several choices where motive power is concerned: an Atlas Chessie/C&O GP15-1, Williams BL2 in the Western Maryland(WM) Speedlettering scheme and  a WBB set of WM Alcos. The WM Alcos are in the Circus scheme. 

The MTH website states that these cars were shipped in 2004 along with the matching E8's