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For everybody else this is an old basic question. For me, it's new as I am currently trying to resurrect my 52' Lionel O gauge trains for my grandson. Can't decide whether to stay with tube track or go with the crop of new track. Will we always be able to get good track in the future. Any comments would be appreciate. I am a new member.
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To me, that's a personal decision. There have been rumors for years that Lionel is going to stop making tubular track, but that has not happened yet. Even if it does, there are 100 years of Lionel tubular track on the used market, and Williams makes it too.

 

As for new track, Fastrack (what Lionel is mainly pushing now) is great, and would work well on a carpet or a layout. It is more expensive than tubular though.

 

So really, it's your decision. They are both great products. However, if you want my decision, I decided to go with O gauge tubular (not O-27, I'm not sure which you have) when I built my new layout. It has wider curves than o-27, and was cheaper than fastrack.

The tubular track is easier to work with then Fastack and cost less then Fastrack.

Another thing to consider is doing any custom track fitting as it gets super expensive with Fastrack.

With tubular track you just cut it and file it off and add track pins, not so with Fastrack.

 

As for companies that still sell tubular track there is RMT trains and Williams. You can find enough tubular in the market place(ebay or train shows) for many years, so don't even try to be concerned that you can not find it.

 

Lee Fritz

Originally Posted by CarGuyZM10:

To me, that's a personal decision. There have been rumors for years that Lionel is going to stop making tubular track, but that has not happened yet. Even if it does, there are 100 years of Lionel tubular track on the used market, and Williams makes it too.

 

 

Not a rumor anymore. It is a fact. At our club meeting, one of our members, who owns a LHS and is a Lionel dealer, received a press release from Lionel last week indicating tubular track is done. Lionel will not make any more. As I recall, switches won't be made anymore and will be the first to go. Track will no longer be manufactured starting in a year or two. Once distributors run out, thats it. 

Originally Posted by SJC:
Originally Posted by CarGuyZM10:

To me, that's a personal decision. There have been rumors for years that Lionel is going to stop making tubular track, but that has not happened yet. Even if it does, there are 100 years of Lionel tubular track on the used market, and Williams makes it too.

 

 

Not a rumor anymore. It is a fact. At our club meeting, one of our members, who owns a LHS and is a Lionel dealer, received a press release from Lionel last week indicating tubular track is done. Lionel will not make any more. As I recall, switches won't be made anymore and will be the first to go. Track will no longer be manufactured starting in a year or two. Once distributors run out, thats it. 

 

So I should hoard enough tubular track to last me for the next 60 years?

Daniel Grubb,

    I use Lionel FasTrack, MTH RealTrax and Lionel Conventional Tubular O & 027 on our different Christmas layouts down thru the years.  I love the new FasTrack with the low voltage remote control switches, however as Rob points out it is cheaper to run Conventional Track & Switches and get the job done in a more traditional Tin Plate manner.  With the advent of the new Rockwell X2 Bladrunner Saw, cutting custom FasTrack pieces at any angle, is no longer a problem.  Now FasTrack is just as easy to work with as conventional tubular, and FT is much nicer for any carpet central layout you might want to make for your kids. Further I like FasTrack & RealTrax because they will accommodate all my Tin Plate Trains, both old and new, along with all my modern trains also.  Prior to purchasing track, make sure what ever trains you presently own & trains that you want to purchase in the future, run on the track & switches you like most & want to presently purchase.  If you are going to stay with conventional Tubular track, I also suggest you look into the RMT low voltage switches, they are in fact the original K-Line Super Snap switches, and some of the best modern switches ever made, other wise the super high grade Lionel 022's, 711/072 are still available. 

Have fun deciding on what track to purchase and build your layout with, and welcome back to the hobby.

PCRR/Dave

 

 

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Track is mostly a personal preference, but it also depends on what you want to do with it.  If you plan to set up something permanent on a platform, you can easily use tubular.  It's less expensive, quieter, and has the classic "Lionel Train" appearance.  The main disadvantage is that the switches aren't as smooth.  If you're going with a floor layout, then Fastrack is probably a better choice.  You can place it directly on the carpet with no concerns about track separation, carpet in the gears, etc.  Its main disadvantage IMO is noise.  It's not so bad on the living room floor but on a layout platform it's loud.  That's the main reason I don't use it.
Originally Posted by SJC:
Originally Posted by CarGuyZM10:

To me, that's a personal decision. There have been rumors for years that Lionel is going to stop making tubular track, but that has not happened yet. Even if it does, there are 100 years of Lionel tubular track on the used market, and Williams makes it too.

 

 

Not a rumor anymore. It is a fact. At our club meeting, one of our members, who owns a LHS and is a Lionel dealer, received a press release from Lionel last week indicating tubular track is done. Lionel will not make any more. As I recall, switches won't be made anymore and will be the first to go. Track will no longer be manufactured starting in a year or two. Once distributors run out, thats it. 

Rumors, rumors, rumors again. Lionel's exact statement said they would cease production until current inventory levels are reduced. Besides, there's more than enough on the secondary market to last for years. Most experienced train folk buy their track by the sealed case, it's alot cheaper that way.

 

"Pappy"

Originally Posted by SJC:
Originally Posted by CarGuyZM10:

To me, that's a personal decision. There have been rumors for years that Lionel is going to stop making tubular track, but that has not happened yet. Even if it does, there are 100 years of Lionel tubular track on the used market, and Williams makes it too. 

Not a rumor anymore. It is a fact. At our club meeting, one of our members, who owns a LHS and is a Lionel dealer, received a press release from Lionel last week indicating tubular track is done. Lionel will not make any more. As I recall, switches won't be made anymore and will be the first to go. Track will no longer be manufactured starting in a year or two. Once distributors run out, thats it. 

My LHS told me the same thing last Friday. No details like you got, just said Lionel announced they were not making tubular track anymore. My LHS said they thought Bachmann made some that was similar. They don't carry it at my LHS so I have never seen it.

 

I also think track selection is definitely a personal choice decision and should be researched carefully before purchasing mass quantities. Everyone is different and wants different things with their track systems.

Originally Posted by Happy Pappy:
Originally Posted by SJC:
Originally Posted by CarGuyZM10:

To me, that's a personal decision. There have been rumors for years that Lionel is going to stop making tubular track, but that has not happened yet. Even if it does, there are 100 years of Lionel tubular track on the used market, and Williams makes it too.

 

 

Not a rumor anymore. It is a fact. At our club meeting, one of our members, who owns a LHS and is a Lionel dealer, received a press release from Lionel last week indicating tubular track is done. Lionel will not make any more. As I recall, switches won't be made anymore and will be the first to go. Track will no longer be manufactured starting in a year or two. Once distributors run out, thats it. 

Rumors, rumors, rumors again. Lionel's exact statement said they would cease production until current inventory levels are reduced. Besides, there's more than enough on the secondary market to last for years. Most experienced train folk buy their track by the sealed case, it's alot cheaper that way.

 

"Pappy"

I asked specifically, having heard the same thing at York from Lionel. That is no longer the case. Tubular track is 100% DONE. No occasional production runs. This is it. Bachmann has tubular track and their new EZ Track (similar to their HO and N scale track). RMT has the K-line stuff. 

     The question you have to ask yourself, do you want a scale or toy train appearance. I am a toy train layout, the track in the photo is out of production but Lionel Tubular track is still available along with switches and cross overs.

     I like the sounds from the train's wheels on tubular track.

Good Luck 

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Didn't see anything in the 'Announcements' or 'News' on the Lionel web site, but...

 

The Lionel 'Online store' only shows FasTrack for sale, no tubular of any kind. The pulldown on the left of the page shows 3 "Traditional O" items. But if you click on it you get 3 FasTrack "Track Packs" that for some reason have "Traditional O" in the description.

 

OK, so Perhaps Tubular has run out after many decades of use.

I prefer Realtrax for my Den / Christmas Layout and ScaleTrax for the Big Layout.

Scaletrax is the closest to scale made, period. Yes there are many saying the tie spacing is too wide, but it is closer than any other actual track without built in roadbed.

Personally, I don't notice the spacing. Especially after ballast is in place.

 

Bottom line Daniel:

Look around, play with some track and make your choice.

Ross makes excellent (correct shape rails staked to wood ties) track and switches here in the USA if that matters to you.

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