Boats on the Water

Nicely crafted scene Arnold!  The trees  and brush in forground with the slightly distant forest  background project a convincing  aura of the row boaters rowing thru dense wilderness. 

That looks very nice, Arnold. Idyllic. Bravo!

FrankM

"Rowing on the lake."  First photo demonstrates forced perspective with larger boat in foreground and canoes on water in background.  The rest of the photos show the canoes from various camera angles. Thanks for starting this thread Arnold!  You have inspired me to go back and touch up my lake scene. 

trumptrain posted:

"Rowing on the lake."  First photo demonstrates forced perspective with larger boat in foreground and canoes on water in background.  The rest of the photos show the canoes from various camera angles. Thanks for starting this thread Arnold!  You have inspired me to go back and touch up my lake scene. 

Glorious. Patrick!

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Row, row, row your boat, gently down the stream, merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream:

What do you think of the above row boats and scene?

This is the place to share your boats on the water and comment on them. Arnold

Now I'll tell you the rest of the story about the above scene, which relates to Patrick's reply.

I Googled O Scale row boats about 1 week to 10 days ago, and found the above 3 rowboats with oars and figures for a very reasonable price on E Bay. But the E Bay listing didn't specifically say the particular scale or size of the rowboats.

I took a chance hoping they were in the O Scale ballpark.

They arrived in a tiny package about 2 inches long and each rowboat is about three quarters of an inch long. They are probably N Scale size.

I was initially disappointed, but knew that the only hope to make it work would be to position them deep into the layout, away from the viewer. I did so, and I think they look fine.

I will be on the hunt for more rowboats in HO and O Scale to put in the middle and front of the layout, to maximize the forced perspective impact. Arnold

More boats on the water:

Arnold

WBG PETE, I'm so glad you posted in this thread, as any time I have ever seen shots of your layout, they have been marvelous and inspirational to me, just like this one.

Respect and a hearty cheer,

FrankM

Arnold, good use of forced perspective with the row boats.  Are those fishing boats models od souvenir boats from nautical type locales that you have added extra details to?

coach joe posted:

Arnold, good use of forced perspective with the row boats.  Are those fishing boats models od souvenir boats from nautical type locales that you have added extra details to?

I bought a couple of the fishing boats at the Big E in January. I bought the others many years ago, probably at train shows. All modeling on them was done by others.

Great topic as usual Arnold.  Can't wait to the see the images that are posted.

Kevin, since you have expressed an interest in seeing more Boats on the Water images, I am delighted to share more of mine.

Here is a close up of my tiny rowboats with rowers and oars that I recently bought on E Bay for about $15 including shipping:

As mentioned before, although I was disappointed that they are much smaller than O Scale, I am now pleased with them placed deep in my layout providing forced perspective.

IMO, they are attractive and very nicely made. I am drawn more and more to having simple pastoral scenes on my layout like this.  Arnold

My contribution

The next close up is the boat that I bought at the Big E from a very good modeler, who had a lot of models of boats in different scales for sale. I forget the price, but remember it was the least expensive one he had, it was at the end of the show, I complimented him for his modeling skills, and then he reduced his price by 20% without me even asking. That  sealed the deal for me. I think its HO scale.

It has nice details including a little fisherman with a red shirt or jacket that you can see if you look closely. Something you can't see is that it has a lobster cage on the deck. Arnold

Kevin, these photos complete my Boats in the Water images.

I bought these many years ago at train shows, probably the Westchester Toy and Train Show in White Plains, NY, shortly before Christmas:

These boats have sentimental value because when my 30 year old son was a little boy, he liked them. Arnold

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Kevin, these photos complete my Boats in the Water images.

I bought these many years ago at train shows, probably the Westchester Toy and Train Show in White Plains, NY, shortly before Christmas:

These boats have sentimental value because when my 30 year old son was a little boy, he liked them. Arnold

Nice 

   nmp....

Some more:

I'm thrilled with this Lionel NY Central tugboat.

As I am with this custom made schooner/steam ship:

And this custom made barge:

If you have any photos of boats, ships, docks or harbor scenes on you layout, this is the place to share them. Arnold

Modeling a Rocky Mountain theme in 1940, l thought maybe white-water rafting, but not sure it existed then, nor kayaking, so that leaves canoeing, on stream or lake.  The water craft l really want to model is a gold dredge.

@Arnold D. Cribari posted:

As I am with this custom made schooner/steam ship:

Arnold, unless I am much mistaken, this is a built up Model Shipways kit of the Revenue Cutter Harriet Lane, a side-wheel steamer that served with both the US and the Confederate navies during the American Civil War.  Variously described as 1/125, 1/144, and 3/32" scale, the kit has been around for many years and marketed by several manufacturers.  In fact, it was so popular, that an early plastics models company named Pyro created a styrene kit which matches the wooden kit almost exactly.  It, too, was offered by more than one company, and Lindberg recently re-released it.  Both have also gone by the name "Blockade Runner" (a role the ship served for the Confederacy) and "Steam Frigate" (which she was not).

Canoe on the lake.

@palallin posted:

Arnold, unless I am much mistaken, this is a built up Model Shipways kit of the Revenue Cutter Harriet Lane, a side-wheel steamer that served with both the US and the Confederate navies during the American Civil War.  Variously described as 1/125, 1/144, and 3/32" scale, the kit has been around for many years and marketed by several manufacturers.  In fact, it was so popular, that an early plastics models company named Pyro created a styrene kit which matches the wooden kit almost exactly.  It, too, was offered by more than one company, and Lindberg recently re-released it.  Both have also gone by the name "Blockade Runner" (a role the ship served for the Confederacy) and "Steam Frigate" (which she was not).

You are correct, Pallalin, about Harriet Lane. This ship has a stand with a name plate on it that says: Harriet Lane of New York 1857 to 1884.

When I brought it home and showed it to my wife (who is not into trains but tolerant of my passion for them) said it was so attractive, why not put it on top of the piano in the living room. That's what I did and it looks great there.

Thanks for sharing the other information you supplied about this ship. Arnold

Must have missed this thread first time around. Thanks for reviving it, Arnold. Your newest acquisitions are beautiful.

Scenes around the "Hellgate" tug boat basin. The waters in the area were notoriously dangerous for tugs back in the day, hence the uncertainty of round trip tickets!!

The tug was built from a plastic kit in a scale about that of HO. Some of the larger passengers don't seem too comfortable on the smaller than O scale ship!

Jim

Most models of boats show the entire hull including the underwater part.  For a train layout we need what is called a "waterline model" where the bottom of the model is flat at the waterline.  We should post info about sources of waterline models.   Of course there is a scale issue too.  http://frenchmanriver.com/OOn3...8-Boat-Kits_c_9.html

Couple more ....

@Jim Policastro posted:

Must have missed this thread first time around. Thanks for reviving it, Arnold. Your newest acquisitions are beautiful.

Scenes around the "Hellgate" tug boat basin. The waters in the area were notoriously dangerous for tugs back in the day, hence the uncertainty of round trip tickets!!

The tug was built from a plastic kit in a scale about that of HO. Some of the larger passengers don't seem too comfortable on the smaller than O scale ship!

Jim

My pleasure, Jim. Your modeling is masterful and full of fun, as usual.  Arnold

Here’s a shot of my little pond, which flows into a creek out of frame. When I’m not modeling, I’m fishing, so there’s lots of that going on.

@ogaugenut posted:

Most models of boats show the entire hull including the underwater part.  For a train layout we need what is called a "waterline model" where the bottom of the model is flat at the waterline.  We should post info about sources of waterline models.   Of course there is a scale issue too.  http://frenchmanriver.com/OOn3...8-Boat-Kits_c_9.html

True.....or, in my case, the plastic hull had a quick encounter with my bandsaw!!!

Jim

I got this motorized fisherman a while back its a older unit that works with a timer.. My brother loves fishing

so, the kids call him uncle ray  ..when they come over....

A couple of photos of boats at the Chicagoland Lionel Railroad Club.  First a bass boat.

Next is the most famous electric boat of all time,  the Beatles' Yellow Submarine.

Hope you like them.

A slightly larger boat on the water.

Bill and Dan, I like the waves in your water as well as your boats. What is your water and waves made of?

Arnold

@Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Bill and Dan, I like the waves in your water as well as your boats. What is your water and waves made of?

Arnold

Arnold,

I used a toilet paper and diluted white glue process.  Mix up the glue 50/50 -60/40 water to glue ratio. Then start layering like you're making lasagna.  Glue the individual pieces of toilet paper,  over and over till you get 3-4 layers of paper. The final layer should be your glue mixture.  Take a fairly stiff paint brush  (I used a chip brush from Harbor Freight Tools ) and stab at the paper, working it into what looks like waves.  Don't worry if you're using embossed paper,  they will disappear as the paper gets wet , if needed just use the brush to work them out.

Think about how waves form in nature, wind or some physical disturbance to water. So I  made most of the waves follow a single direction of my arbitrarily determined wind. Same with the wake from the submarine. 

Let everything dry for a few days then paint the surface whatever color you desire.  I picked Sherwin Williams' Trout Brown to resemble dirty water in a latex flat paint. Add some high (low) lights with black latex for areas of deeper water or shadows  (like under the bridge) while the brown is still wet, blending the edges of the 2 colors together. The wave crests were dry brushed with either white or silver acrylics to highlight them. 3 or so coats of high gloss water based acrylic finish is the final step.

I hope this helps you. Try it, I was a fun project.

Here is a photo from my home layout of my Great Lakes ore boat that I scratch built last year. She's nearly 8 feet long over the spars. The handrails stanchions,  winches and stairs and windows are the only commercial pieces on it.  Took me 5 months to build it, using wood for the keel and sides, hardboard for the deck,  foam board and cardstock for the cabins. Everything was sheathed in styrene.

@Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Bill and Dan, I like the waves in your water as well as your boats. What is your water and waves made of?

Arnold

Here the product I used  pretty sure I got it from amazon.. or the bay..  first I was worried I need a lot .. what I did was use automotive plastic Bondo and made the base of the pond, I repainted with flat tester enamel   it before adding the product. and as you can see not much of the product was needed. after I poured it in.  I used Ge Silicone clear to make the upper operating K line look like it was overflowing the pond. with random build up  ....daniel

Arnold, I used the same technique as Bill, toilet paper and diluted white glue.  I got the idea from Marklin of Sweden on YouTube.  Here is a link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TwpB7sVMn8