Born in Beloit ... Fairbanks Morse

Here is a pic of my MTH Trainmaster that I picked up from my FIRST "Big E" experience:

@prrhorseshoecurve posted:

Here is a pic of my MTH Trainmaster that I picked up from my FIRST "Big E" experience:

Very sharp !

i don’t have one of the MTH Premier TM engines .... yet ...

i saw the engineering prototype on the warehouse auction, but , got busy with family and missed the final bid 😢🤦‍♂️

Oh Boy !

@dPrasse posted:

Oh Boy !

Yep.  I will probably pull the trigger on the pair of demonstrators.

Brendan

The Lackawanna mixed their purchases, and were buyers of the Train Master. They were also used into the E-L era.

@dPrasse posted:

Oh Boy !

Very nice, but I don't recall seeing any photos of Tuscan red 5 stripe PRR passenger units, only Brunswick green freight units,

so I'll pass.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/...9400/in/photostream/

Interesting thing, the PRR only had the four axle versions, so the PRR version is slightly inaccurate (I actually just looked it up to make sure). The FM C-Liners are very cool engines. I've mentioned before that I love unique and rare diesel locos. The FMs are some of my favorites.

@prrhorseshoecurve posted:

Here is a pic of my MTH Trainmaster that I picked up from my FIRST "Big E" experience:

As a point of continuing education...

• A "Trainmaster" is a mid-level company officer at a railroad.
• A "Train Master" is a Fairbanks Morse diesel.

And...for those of you who insist on shooting a HORIZONTAL SUBJECT (your locomotives) in VERTICAL VIDEO, please watch this:

@prrhorseshoecurve posted:

Here is a pic of my MTH Trainmaster that I picked up from my FIRST "Big E" experience:

Question, was your Train Master made from MTH's original tooling or their newest tooling?

I ask because this is mine from their latest tooling.

Ron

@JET posted:

Also used on submarines

https://ww2db.com/ship_spec.php?ship_id=864

The USS Ling was a museum in the 70s? 80s? I was surprised to see all the FM power in the engine room.

This popped up in my YouTube feed.  The second link jumps right to the FM Opposed piston section   

https://youtu.be/cxhakWu75Rc?t=1

https://youtu.be/cxhakWu75Rc?t=763

From my recent display , at the North Carolina Transportation Museum model train Show , in May ....

More NCTM action ...

A few years ago my son introduced me to the Southern Pacific FM H12-44 diesels. I fell in love with them and bought one, but the model was not exactly like the SP used them. We removed the overhanging roof of the rear of the cab and added the typical ash can lights that SP used at the time. This FM engine is one of my favorites!

!@WP posted:

A few years ago my son introduced me to the Southern Pacific FM H12-44 diesels. I fell in love with them and bought one, but the model was not exactly like the SP used them. We removed the overhanging roof of the rear of the cab and added the typical ash can lights that SP used at the time. This FM engine is one of my favorites!

Sharp looking Locomotive .... I wish I could afford a model of every single scheme FM Locomotive model were made in ...

This is a great book covering SP Fairbanks Morse locos ...

The University that employed me use to have two large FM emergency generators on one of the campuses. It looked like they just took the trucks off the locomotives and set them on the floor! They needed a lot of TLC but did their job for decades...........but are gone now.

Jim K

@dPrasse posted:

Sharp looking Locomotive .... I wish I could afford a model of every single scheme FM Locomotive model were made in ...

This is a great book covering SP Fairbanks Morse locos ...

Thank you. And yes, that’s an excellent book. My son got me a copy, and our edition has a picture of the real SP engine that our model represents.

@WP posted:

A few years ago my son introduced me to the Southern Pacific FM H12-44 diesels. I fell in love with them and bought one, but the model was not exactly like the SP used them. We removed the overhanging roof of the rear of the cab and added the typical ash can lights that SP used at the time. This FM engine is one of my favorites!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ilUCzz8nhsw

My 1990s CNJ FM Train Master reissue....

@PRRronbh posted:

Question, was your Train Master made from MTH's original tooling or their newest tooling?

I ask because this is mine from their latest tooling.

Ronkee

That beast looks beautiful...

Any idea what happened to the MTH Train Master  tooling ?

Did mth keep it ?

Is the MTH tooling what Lionel used for their MTO engines ? I dont have one of the mth engines to compare to my MTO TM Demonstrators ...

@jay jay posted:

My 1990s CNJ FM Train Master reissue....

Very nice ...

I have posted this before, but it illustrates why Fairbanks-Morse locomotives always get my attention.

@dPrasse posted:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ilUCzz8nhsw

Great dPrasse! I love Niles Canyon. I enjoy seeing their H12-44 painted like the SP 1487. Thank you for sharing that video. Here’s a photo I took at Niles about 8 years ago.

FM's first locomotive: Milwaukee Road H10-44 760:

Milwaukee Road H10-44 731 at the old Kansas City Railroad Museum in the River Quay district in 1977:

Alas, the 731 was without the prime mover.  Whereabouts currently unknown.

Rusty

@Number 90 posted:

I have posted this before, but it illustrates why Fairbanks-Morse locomotives always get my attention.

Thank you for sharing that , again ... id not seen that video , before ...

Fantastic scene and backdrop !

A few pieces from my FM collection ....

@Rusty Traque posted:

FM's first locomotive: Milwaukee Road H10-44 760:

Milwaukee Road H10-44 731 at the old Kansas City Railroad Museum in the River Quay district in 1977:

Alas, the 731 was without the prime mover.  Whereabouts currently unknown.

Rusty

I miss seeing 760 ... havent been to Union since we moved from Freeport to SC , 9yrs ago ....

Heres 760s FM Builder Photo , from my collection ..

Santa Fe H12-44TS (Terminal Switcher) 543.  Only 3 built:

Rusty

@Rusty Traque posted:

Santa Fe H12-44TS (Terminal Switcher) 543.  Only 3 built:

Rusty

Another great Union Railway Museum save !

Class Family Protrait

ATSF 542 , from my collection ..

@Artie-DL&W posted:

The Lackawanna mixed their purchases, and were buyers of the Train Master. They were also used into the E-L era.

FM made a real nice sales brochure covering the Lackawana deal...

Brochure from my collection ...

Photographed this gem at the Northwest Railway Museum in Snoqualmie, WA in 2019.  A great little museum off the beaten path a bit.

For FM models, I have a few AHM HO C Liners from the late 70's.  Not particularly great models so I don't have photographs.  I also have Train Masters though in O, HO, and N.  My HO one is a Blue Box Athearn in PRR and was the first Athearn locomotive I ever received as a gift from my uncle when I was 9 or 10.  The O locomotive is a Williams while the N is an Atlas.  The Atlas has better detail.

@Number 90 posted:

I have posted this before, but it illustrates why Fairbanks-Morse locomotives always get my attention.

That is an excellent short video. I sure wouldn't mind seeing some more of that fantastic looking Layout'... That backdrop is a killing it'.. Very impressive'.. Thanks for re-posting'.. First time for me seeing this'....👀👍

@GG1 4877 posted:

Photographed this gem at the Northwest Railway Museum in Snoqualmie, WA in 2019.  A great little museum off the beaten path a bit.

For FM models, I have a few AHM HO C Liners from the late 70's.  Not particularly great models so I don't have photographs.  I also have Train Masters though in O, HO, and N.  My HO one is a Blue Box Athearn in PRR and was the first Athearn locomotive I ever received as a gift from my uncle when I was 9 or 10.  The O locomotive is a Williams while the N is an Atlas.  The Atlas has better detail.

Very nice museum piece !

No S scale Train Master ? 🤣

( i dont have one , either ..)

That CNJ TM is sharp...

I do have N scale FM power and a few pieces of HO ...

H12-44 at Mad River & Nickel Plate Museum in Bellevue, Ohio:

Tom

@GG1 4877 posted:

For FM models, I have a few AHM HO C Liners from the late 70's.  Not particularly great models so I don't have photographs.

Well, here's the AHM C-Liners...  Cutting off the front "platforms" improved the looks somewhat:

And the much better looking Life-Like Proto 2000's:

Rusty

Here's a picture of my FM H12-44, all dirty and working hard spotting ore cars at the dock. I also have an undecorated Train Master of unknown origin. Possibly a  Lionel Pennsy unit based on the holes drilled in its side for a train phone.  Has TMCC and a smoke unit. Shell is  cracked on the roof,  will need repairs and then I'll paint it CNW  colors .

FM's are cool.

Oddly, I did not include them on my "Kansas City & Gulf" paper roster when I developed the roster back in the early-mid 1990s. This in spite of FM's of some sort being on 3 of my "Foundational Four" railroads I used to guide my decisions about my fictional KC&G. (i.e. "Foundational Four" = Frisco, Mop, Rock Island, KCS.)

FM's on my "Foundational Four" breaks down as follows:

* The Frisco had a small amount of FM switchers.

* The Rock Island had a few FM 4 axle road switchers.

* The KCS had two FM 4 axle road switchers.

I will say, though, the Frisco's were quite good looking in the black w/yellow strip schemes.

Frisco's "Full Stripe" scheme:

Or the Frisco's "Simplified" scheme:

However, the Orange and White scheme? Well, you be the judge:

Andre

@third rail posted:

Here's a picture of my FM H12-44, all dirty and working hard spotting ore cars at the dock. I also have an undecorated Train Master of unknown origin. Possibly a  Lionel Pennsy unit based on the holes drilled in its side for a train phone.  Has TMCC and a smoke unit. Shell is  cracked on the roof,  will need repairs and then I'll paint it CNW  colors .

I borrowed and operated a friends Lionel H12-44 ... fun engine to operate , but , friend wasnt selling ... was just teasing me

@laming posted:

FM's are cool.

Oddly, I did not include them on my "Kansas City & Gulf" paper roster when I developed the roster back in the early-mid 1990s. This in spite of FM's of some sort being on 3 of my "Foundational Four" railroads I used to guide my decisions about my fictional KC&G. (i.e. "Foundational Four" = Frisco, Mop, Rock Island, KCS.)

FM's on my "Foundational Four" breaks down as follows:

* The Frisco had a small amount of FM switchers.

* The Rock Island had a few FM 4 axle road switchers.

* The KCS had two FM 4 axle road switchers.

I will say, though, the Frisco's were quite good looking in the black w/yellow strip schemes.

Frisco's "Full Stripe" scheme:

Or the Frisco's "Simplified" scheme:

However, the Orange and White scheme? Well, you be the judge:

Andre

KCS had 6 Erie Builts , also ... an ABBA 8000hp set , initially ... then 2 more A units to build 2 ABA sets .... the 8000hp set had a problem of breaking couplers , mid train ... they needed better twist tues ti keep couplers closed , i guess 🤣

A few Frisco FM ads in my collection ...

my mth Frisco H10-44 ,

and a RI FM ad ....

The RI did test Train Master Demonstrators , fall of 53 ... an interesting what-if !

I do think the simplified Frisco is the sharpest of the 3 ...

dPrasse:

Right you are!

I totally forgot about the KCS Erie-built road units.

Andre

@laming posted:

dPrasse:

Right you are!

I totally forgot about the KCS Erie-built road units.

Andre

Very colorful units,  from FM ...

They were "boringized" when EMD'd ..

dPrasse:

Yes, KCS had a great looking "original" schemes.

Never really cared for the all-red, but I do like the "Blonde" scheme.

In regards to the KCS FM Erie-Built's, LOVE the "Chop Top" versions!

Here's a pic shot by my late friend, of a Chop Top in a consist at a location that's just 14 miles from where I live:

So cool! IF someone made a good looking, good running, plastic model of a Chop Top (UP had them, too) in HO, I could almost guarantee there would be a leased Chop Top unit operating on my KC&G!

Andre