C&O 1309 just moved under her own power!

@Hot Water posted:

"unit"????????       You must be kidding.

Yeah, Hot. I was bloody kidding GEEZ LOUISE!

Third Rail has put out feelers for this locomotive. I believe they were waiting for THIS CHERISHED PART OF OUR NATIONAL HERITAGE to return to service before re-soliciting reservations for the project.

Happy?

---PCJ

Lionel did the Mallet twice in recent years, 2012 and I think 2018. I didn't see 1309 modeled, but has the engine itself had other numbers and other owners as often happens?

I know that the 2012 version was said to be an excellent model, but I don't own one. Just know that there was a lot of good buzz on that year's model.

I would definitely be interested in a c&o h-6 if 3rd rail made one! We all need to  start bugging Scott Mann over there! Would go great on the layout with my jlc Allegheny 👍

Here’s another with some nice blasts of that N&W hooter...

And another...
“Mile marker 1, 12 axles, NO DIESEL!”

Excellent videos!  Kelly, I’m not seeing what you posted.

Could be ye olde embed code from Facebook.

I see it now, Kelly!  Thank you for posting!!

That is an excellent video, made even better considering how sort a time they had to edit it all.

I wonder what type of whistle these had in active service? I love the sound of an N&W-style 'hooter' whistle, just wondering if that's what 1309 would have used back in the day?

It doesn't make a difference for its service as it'll be lettered for Western Maryland (and they'll be fielding daily questions of, "why don't you letter her for C&O when she's on daily service), I was just wondering.

Wow, we needed such good news to see this 2-6-6-2 running!

@p51 posted:

That is an excellent video, made even better considering how sort a time they had to edit it all.

I wonder what type of whistle these had in active service?

A typicle C&O "hooter", just like all the other C&O freight steam locomotives.

I love the sound of an N&W-style 'hooter' whistle, just wondering if that's what 1309 would have used back in the day?

Yes, pretty much, except the large N&W steam locomotives equipped with "hooter" whistles operated at 300 psi boiler pressure. The C&O #1309 does NOT operate at such a high boiler pressure (can't remember exactly what the pressure is), and most likely has saturated steam supply to the whistle.

It doesn't make a difference for its service as it'll be lettered for Western Maryland (and they'll be fielding daily questions of, "why don't you letter her for C&O when she's on daily service), I was just wondering.

Note that they currently have magnetic "Chesapeake & Ohio" stick-on lettering for the tender, which was paid for by Trains Magazine, and would be used for possible future chartered photo operations.

Wow, we needed such good news to see this 2-6-6-2 running!

Yes, and also note that it is the largest COMPOUND steam locomotive operating in the world!

I am thrilled to see another big steamer, the 1309 back in action. My thanks and appreciations go out to the 1309 Restoration Team, the Western Maryland RR, and all of those who made financial contributions for this project. Great job!

This video, produced by Kelly Lynch, is what professional video looks like. Wonderful shots, fantastic drone work, great choice of music and a nice story line threaded throughout, make this another triumph from Mr. Lynch. And note that there is no vertical video anywhere in this production. (hint, hint.  )

Kelly, my hat is off to you my friend. AGAIN!  You've got "the touch." Great work!

@Bobby Ogage posted:

I am thrilled to see another big steamer, the 1309 back in action. My thanks and appreciations go out to the 1309 Restoration Team, the Western Maryland RR,

Note that it is the "Western Maryland Scenic Railroad", as the real Western Maryland Railroad was absorbed by the Chessie System, long LONG ago.

and all of those who made financial contributions for this project. Great job!

Congrats!

Very cool engine (my favorite in the country, but we all have our opinions) ... very cool area. Best wishes going forward for the entire project ... engine, infrastructure, finances. I wish I could have made more than my modest donations.

And, for those that will be coming from afar to Cumberland when she is all ready to go ... the day is coming when Pennsylvania's East Broad Top RR will be up and running .... and not much more than an hour's drive away.

I hope that she's allowed to keep that N&W hooter. And the reason is that it sounds almost exactly like the hooters that i recall the Baltimore and Ohio EM1 used. Stirs my childhood memories, by golly!

Ain't she sweet, that big ole 1309! For a while, I thought I was gonna stop before she started!

I'm one of those who likes the whitewalls and also the inset on the main rods darkened. One sharp excursion locomotive. One of the best things about this big fella is that when WMSRR gets back in operation, you can visit almost any weekend and it will be running, no waiting for permission on the big iron!

Ed

I just watched Kelly's video. He is not good at his work. He is SUPER!  Wish I coulda been there. Well maybe next time. And EBT Jim, I have visited the EBT and anyone who has a chance should go there when it's ready. Lots of rr history, lots of steam!

Ed

@Rich Melvin posted:

And note that there is no vertical video anywhere in this production. (hint, hint.  )

Dang now they'll miss out on all those YouTube Short views! 

God willing, if things are back to normal this summer and 1309 is in regular service.  My son and I will have to make a trip out there.

Seriously cool!

PCJ - yes 3rd Rail did put out a pre-order for 1309 and I put in a reservation as soon as they announced it.  Unfortunately, there were only a handful of orders so it was cancelled - like you said, once 1309 is fully operational maybe there will be enough interest for 3rd Rail to revisit that project.

Found this on the 'net:  https://fh-sites.imgix.net/sit...-scheme-1024x286.jpg

Ed

@Ed Mullan posted:

Found this on the 'net:  https://fh-sites.imgix.net/sit...-scheme-1024x286.jpg

Ed

Ed, that photograph is beautiful!!  Thank you for sharing the link!!

@Mark Boyce posted:

Ed, that photograph is beautiful!!  Thank you for sharing the link!!

Photoshopped, but a very good job.

Rusty

@Rusty Traque posted:

Photoshopped, but a very good job.

Rusty

Rusty, I was aware it was photoshopped, but a Western Maryland fan has to love it anyway! 

@Ed Mullan posted:

Found this on the 'net:  https://fh-sites.imgix.net/sit...-scheme-1024x286.jpg

Ed

Ed, she will look great painted that way. I assume in spring 1309 will emerge from the shop fully painted.

@J 611 posted:

Ed, she will look great painted that way. I assume in spring 1309 will emerge from the shop fully painted.

50/50 on that fireball though.  Personally I love it, and I think more trains should have flame style paint jobs!  However that was a freight thing for the WM, and yet the WMSRR does use on the 734.  I guess we will have to wait and see

@jhz563 posted:

50/50 on that fireball though.

Not sure that the Western Maryland actually had the "fireball" styling on their steam locomotives.

Personally I love it, and I think more trains should have flame style paint jobs!

Oh boy.

However that was a freight thing for the WM,

If you are referring to the #1309, the Western Maryland didn't have any of those, i.e. the 2-6-6-2 compound articulated steam locomotives. The #1309 is originally a C&O H-6 locomotive.

and yet the WMSRR does use on the 734.  I guess we will have to wait and see

My guess is, it will be appropriate styling& painting for the Western Maryland Scenic Railroad.

@Rich Melvin posted:

This video, produced by Kelly Lynch, is what professional video looks like. Wonderful shots, fantastic drone work, great choice of music and a nice story line threaded throughout, make this another triumph from Mr. Lynch. And note that there is no vertical video anywhere in this production. (hint, hint.  )

Kelly, my hat is off to you my friend. AGAIN!  You've got "the touch." Great work!

Rich,

You are correct. Kelly is a pro, first class video. 👍👍

Larry

@Hot Water posted:

Well I am quite sure that WM steam locomotives had the fast freight fireball,  including the challengers.

What's wrong with fanciful paint jobs?

Myself and every other railfan who has followed the story of 1309 and donated to the cause is quite aware of the heritage,  I really can't understand your need to explain it to someone on this forum.

My entire point is that fast freight fireball scheme is used by WMSRR on the 734, even though the WMRR used a simpler lettering scheme for passenger locomotives.  The 1309 and 734 are primarily passenger engines for the WMSRR.  Frankly it's their RR and their locomotive so if they decide to paint that "unit" brink pink with purple poka-dots then that's prototypical and we can just enjoy it.

I just feel there are many times you are just looking to stir things up or be disrespectful instead of contributing something useful to the discussion. It gets tiresome.

A Google search for WM steam will turn up multiple authentic examples with the fireball.

Rusty

@Rusty Traque posted:

A Google search for WM steam will turn up multiple authentic examples with the fireball.

Rusty

Yes, and I stand corrected concerning the big, modern WM freight steam locomotives. A good friend, who was raised in the B&O and WM area during the steam era, has confirmed that their freight locomotives did indeed carry the fireball logo (however the passenger power didn't). Part of what threw me off was the famous WM 150 ton Shay, the "Big 6" (now at Cass Scenic RR), which did NOT carry the fireball in regular service, but when the WM donated it to the B&O Museum, it was repainted with the fireball logo.

As much as I really like that fireball logo (I still have a Sunset/3rd Rail WM 150 ton shay WITH the fireball logo), I personally don't think that the 1309 should be painted up with the fireball logo, since the WM never had any of those compound 2-6-6-2 locomotives. I would personally prefer the more subdued WM scheme with the two yellow stripes, above and below the name "Western Maryland" on the sides of the tender.

Since they already have the magnetic "Chesapeake & Ohio" lettering for the tender sides, for future use on photo charters, the WM subdued lettering  would be appropriate, in my opinion.

Or they could always go with an earlier scheme before the fireball was designed. On that front, my biggest hope they finally use proper fonts for the lettering.

I don’t care how WMSR paints the 1309.

All I know is I am stoked to be able to see operating articulated steam without having to travel to the other side of the country!!!

@yankspride4 posted:

I don’t care how WMSR paints the 1309.

All I know is I am stoked to be able to see operating articulated steam without having to travel to the other side of the country!!!

And since she will be working hard, it will be worth seeing/hearing.

Yes indeed, Ron!!

Normally I do not like the look of cross pumps and other items on t he smoke box front of a stream emgine.  But the C&O made it look great!

@yankspride4 posted:

I don’t care how WMSR paints the 1309.

All I know is I am stoked to be able to see operating articulated steam without having to travel to the other side of the country!!!

As I read the back and forth on this thread, that was my same thought.

Since I live just "down the road a piece" from the WMSRR, I look forward to heading back up there to enjoy this regardless of the paint scheme.

I believe Lucius Beebe referred to it as "a face only a mother could love"... but there's something wonderfully industrial and workmanlike in that visage.

Jon

@nathansixchime posted:

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Kelly,

A great video.  Streamed it to my TV from FaceBook and bigger than life and that hooter drove the cats nuts 😂

Keep making quality videos.

Larry