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I'm new in 3-rail. I've been a 2-railer for many years and I want to build a small switching layout in 3-Rail. Right now, I have a weaver RS-3, a Lionel Alco S-2 and the 0-8-0 Lionel steamer. They are all conventional units.

 

What is the best way to get slow speed switching operation with conventional locomotives ?

 

A friend of mine suggests me the MRC Tech 4 600 AC. It is supposingly the best conventional power pack.

 

Thanks in advance

Pat

 

 

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Originally Posted by Dale H:

I use the diode method,described here

 

http://www.jcstudiosinc.com/Bl...=488&categoryId=

 

I would stick with a pure sine wave transformer to avoid compatibility issues

 

Dale H

What specific diode would be needed? I know you stated 6 amp, but is there a voltage as well? Can these same diode pairs be used to drop the voltage at the track power connections to slow speeds on downgrades?

Originally Posted by ASQTec:
Originally Posted by Dale H:

I use the diode method,described here

 

http://www.jcstudiosinc.com/Bl...=488&categoryId=

 

I would stick with a pure sine wave transformer to avoid compatibility issues

 

Dale H

What specific diode would be needed? I know you stated 6 amp, but is there a voltage as well? Can these same diode pairs be used to drop the voltage at the track power connections to slow speeds on downgrades?

6 amp,50 volt or more is fine.

 

here is a good buy on the Bay for example

 

www.ebay.com/itm/50x-6Amp-1KV-...;hash=item1e7ac7a651

 

www.ebay.com/itm/6A10-6A-1000V...;hash=item5d3071fcfb

 

Dale H

Last edited by Dale H

Electrical pickup in 3-rail is usually a non-issue, and all of those locos have inexpensive can motors.  The key is the Gear Ratio.  Many 3-rail locos are geared for "Toy Train" top speeds, because that was the norm for so many years.

 

Whichever of your locos makes the most revolutions per inch of travel, will probably have the best slow-speed performance.  You can find out by taking the shell off and turning the flywheel by hand.  Put a little mark on one driving wheel and see how many turns it takes for one revolution of the drivers.  It might be fun to find out the gear ratios for yourself.

 

For any steam loco to run well, the driving wheels have to be quartered correctly and the running gear must be free of binds.  I've heard some good things about the Lionel S-2.  Let us know what you find!

I think I replied to an e-mail from you about this earlier this morning.  You will get a lot of information here and all manner of suggestions that are good from the perspective of those making the suggestions, but might not match your needs.  I have never used the MRC Tech AC unit but have heard good things about them.  I have used MRC Tech products (only DC, for N gauge and to power my 'Streets) and they are fine units.  I would not use a pure sine wave power unit as Dale H recommends unless you also use the diode (rectifier) modification he has outlined: I have an old (1950s) Marx pure AC unit that I play with sometimes and the method Dale recommends makes a noticeable difference in how well locos run slowly with it.

Originally Posted by Lee Willis:

I think I replied to an e-mail from you about this earlier this morning.  You will get a lot of information here and all manner of suggestions that are good from the perspective of those making the suggestions, but might not match your needs.  I have never used the MRC Tech AC unit but have heard good things about them.  I have used MRC Tech products (only DC, for N gauge and to power my 'Streets) and they are fine units.  I would not use a pure sine wave power unit as Dale H recommends unless you also use the diode (rectifier) modification he has outlined: I have an old (1950s) Marx pure AC unit that I play with sometimes and the method Dale recommends makes a noticeable difference in how well locos run slowly with it.

Lee

 

I read the OGR review of the new ZW. Though a fine transformer,there were problems with some older reverse units. I have hundreds of engines with various electronics. Not sure what the original poster has. The CW does not work and play well with PS 1.  Pure sine wave is the only universal system for 3 rail. 

 

Dale H

My layouts have TPC 300 and TPC 400 controllers on them. You can instantly start out at 30% power, or even 100% power. They throttle down to almost nothing. Everything works well on them, but you will never get an old universal motor to run smoothly at a slow speed without stalling.

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