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Hey Gang,

 

I wish youtube would quit messing with their website. I fixed the video link and moved it into this post:

 

 

In prepearation for my layout, I sat down tonight with a Woodland Scenics kit and Fall Foliage (Early and Late) fibre. I had a picture from New Hampshire during the fall I've been studying. So with this in mind, I started my journey...

 

 

 Here are the materials. Seems pretty harmless, right?

 

 

Well, it was soon after that the mess started   I stripped the buds off of the plant material. I cut out a piece of the Fall Foliage and stretched it per the instructions. The leaf material was falling off, and strands of fibre were sticking out. As I lay the fibre on, it just didn't have the volume, so I rolled it to give a thicker look. Here's the first attempt...

 

 

 

 

I had to go back and nip the loose fibres, but it just didn't look right. Here was the second attempt with a little better results. Again, not as much volume. It could be that the "trunks" are too narrow.

 

 

Not liking the results and finding I needed more directions to use the material correctly, I moved on to the spray and sprinkle method. These looked better. The first tree I did looked nice, but the buds I left on to give volume are showing through. I dug through my model railroad toybox and found some green spray paint. The next couple looked better, but of course, I'm going for a fall feeling. I'm not discouraged yet as I know I have a green thumb (and it'll take a couple of days to wash off.)

 

 

 

One nice side effect is that I now have some ground cover to spread about.

 

 

Well, it's back to the drawing board! 

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I think you are off to a good start. As your photo shows, Fall trees from a DISTANCE do not appear bright. Also, not all trees color at the same time, so keep half of them a dull green...this makes the ones turning stand out. Fall foliage is tough to do well. I've only seen a few layouts that pull it off without looking garish/artificial.

the WS kit is sedum. this make very good canopy trees.  I leave the buds on and treat with matt meduim solution then lightly airbrush green (for fall) and flock using Noch flakes or brand of your choice. Also airbrush a few yellow.  The coverage isn't complete so the brown is still "noticable"

there is nothing wrong with buds showing through a bit.  When used in background it will be fine.

 

for foreground I prefer to use sage or make armatures from wire or rope.

My problem is that, yes, I can make a tree as good looking as yours, using the same technique.  But they look good only if I take time, as i think you did, to do it well, including sometimes going back and putting "another layer" of "leaves" on it after it dries.    I've found I need several hundred to fill in a good forest and that would take too long - on the other hand buying that many, even at a volume discount, means my forest costs what a legacy or vision loco does.  Makes me think maybe I should stick to deserts!

ok, here's a "dumb" idea I've used with some success. but it depends on how much real estate you have to fill and how far it is from the viewer. it would also help if the terrain slopes up but that isn't a deal breaker. what I did was make some really good trees, using fosage dead sage, which look exactly like tree armatures and you can make them virtually any size (unfortunately you have to be out west in the mountains to find the stuff). add a very thin stretch out layer of green or black polyfiber (micro-mark sells a large quantity for a very reasonable price). then a layer of foliage. those "good trees become the first, maybe also the second row. behind those, as far back as you want, you install puffs of fiber/foliage mounted on a painted or stained dowel, a lollipop stick or whatever. you will not see the armature behind the good trees and it will start to take on the look of an adirondack forest, which if you look at the prototype from almost any distance, you cannot see the trunks or branches, just rounded green shapes. I even threw in a few puff balls without trunks, the way the HO guys do. that worked ok as well, but they are a little more messy to handle. if you are modeling the east coast forests, it is definitely worth considering, not to mention relatively fast and inexpensive. 

 

jerrman

 

Thanks for the input guys. Since the layout will be small and almost every tree visible, I won't get a chance to make canopies. I thought about the puff ball route, but again, decided against it because of the layout size. I did a youtube search and found a ton of videos. One in particular was about making fall trees by Scott Teague. From what I gather, Scott did some tutorials and some train shows. I need to follow up with a search on Scott to find more. It's a great video to watch and has lots of very insightful information on making fall trees. BillyboyWSL, who posted the video, has about 15 more videos in his play list that I will be watching. I found another video by a young man who used polyfibre on larger trunks, and they turned out pretty good. I have to find it again. Anyways, enjoy this video and I'll post more watch-worthy videos.

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