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 So I'm reading a post that Barry makes to another guy. It's over multiple tius.

https://ogrforum.com/t...44#43102465747414944

I have three myself and they worked until the end of last year when things went progressively down hill. I did replace one old tiu with another old one, and even got another new version L. All that must have thrown my 2 remotes for a loop. My O scale was OK but the G scale was suffering.

 I couldn't add any new engines outside and even lost another engine address outside. So it seems like the remote would try and contact TIU #1 and even TIU #2 which are both in the basement and not powered. I kept getting out of range messages that didn't make sense and I posted a complaint about that stupid message.

 Well maybe the message was correct? I thought I could add an engine to my outside TIU. The trouble is it is set to #3. So I'm guessing that everyone else knows that?? but I didn't. I swear that it had worked in the past. I guess it was a timing thing and the new TIU arrived around any new G scale adds. Even tethered directly to the tiu, the remote would stall and not respond.

 So to the point!

I deleted TIU#1 and #2 from my outside remote. It erased a ton of O scale engines. However, it added a new G scale engine immediately!

I'm really not sure if I should have had two #1 TIU's ( 1 inside and 1 outside?) or do it the way I did?

I just decided that the outside remote shouldn't be talking to the inside O scale.

So after much struggling with uploads of DCS 4.3 and then back to 4.2 and other grumbling, I missed a DCS rule. The engines add to the lowest number TIU first.

 Do I now, have that right Barry?   

I never know it all! Where's that darn DCS book. How did I run for years without any issues???? (Luck).

Why did I sell my old TIU?? sata frada rats...... (idious)

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Well I donno what I did then.

I had to bite the bullet now and reset the old remote. I had lost my address with my custom built MP15AC. I think that's the only way to get it back. So the whole remote was then empty. I tried to load back my new Dash 8 and got the forever searching thing......

So, I used my little brain and said I must have deleted the TIUs again. So I looked and I could then add TIU #2-5 only. So it must be set up for TIU #1. My outside is on TIU #3. SO.....I added TIU #3 and deleted TIU #1.

Most of my G scale engines added in 6 seconds each!

I had 3 engine error messages. Each time I did the add over they fixed themselves. I also had 3 stray adds. Twice to address #92 or 94??, once to address #51? with a @ after the number. I deleted those two and did the add again and it went smoothly. I guess if you see the full engine ID it should be correct.

 I had one no add that I'm guessing is a low battery. It took more than 30 seconds so I stopped it and put the engine on charge.

 Anyways, whatever the problem is, deleting the extra TIU #s that are in the basement solved it. I would have expected the engine to add on the tiu's tracks it was sitting on. For some reason, my G scale outside system wouldn't add anything? It would stall for several long minutes and give me a out of range message at the end.

 

Originally Posted by Barry Broskowitz:

Joe,

The engines add to the lowest number TIU first.

No, they associate with the TIU upon whose tracks they are residing when added.

I guess I should have said they try to add to the lowest?

I'm not sure what went wrong. There was something that happened when I switched out TIUs. The system struggled ever since (to add) and finally just stopped and would not add anything on the outside system.

IIR, the procedure to add a new TIU is to renumber the old one then install the new one.  Is this correct?

 

My problems have all disappeared with the elimination of a second TIU and the use of "Super Mode."  I also was trying to cross into TIU jurisdictions with two transformers and that seemed to complicate matters.  I now have the main line entirely on one channel, the yard on a second, the round house on a third, and an industrial district on the fourth.  Signal strength is 8 or above, (depending on when I last cleaned the track ) and consists are running flawlessly.  

 

Bottom line, the fewer TIU's you use, it would seem, the better, lol.  FWIW.

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