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Our MTH DDA40X and UP #80 Coal Turbine, 1st edition upgraded, both have the same difficulties operating in reverse.  I get what seems like a lot of derails, and when operating the turbine lashup in reverse it's almost guaranteed the turbine will derail on turnouts and crossovers.  If it's running on the mainline with wide curvatures and tangent track it usually does okay but the lead truck on the PA will derail on a 120 curve.  The DDA40X can't seem to get over a series of connected turnouts when going straight through them without stuttering, almost dieing, then speeding up (running 10-15 MPH) forward and reverse.  The minimum turnout these guys have to deal with is 80* on the layout.  I've one curved turnout the coal turbine can't turn out on, which I think is a 90(?), forward or reverse, without derailing.

 

I suspect the turnout is worn out, or just faulty;it has a cracked tie ... and we're going to replace it.

 

Turnouts are all level, track into and out of is level with the turnout.

 

None of the 2-axle locomotives nor the 3 axle diesels, have these problems.  The MTH Challenger has a derailment problem on that same curved turnout when trying to take the inside route.  The front engine wants to lift up and off the rail.

 

I've gone over and over both locomotives upside down and hanging and nothing seems to hang up turning.

 

Is it something in the way the trucks are designed?

 

Any suggestions what to next check out?

 

Always a puzzle to solve on the Cabin Lake and Western Railway!  Ya gotta love this Sherlock Holmes hobby!

 

Thank you.

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Have you checked that the centre rail pickups are perfectly aligned?  I had a similar problem with one of my locomotives, and it was only when I watched it very carefully from ground level that I noticed that a pickup had left the rail top and was forcing the wheels to follow it. A quick adjustment to the pickup solved the problem permanently. 

The studder/die/speedup sounds like the pickup rollers are the same distance apart as the dead spots on the switches, or the rollers are snagging in the gap between the rails at the frog. You may have to stretch or shorten the distance between the switches to fix that (you dont see it on shorter engines because a DDA40X is a good 5" longer than even a DD35A, so its not something you would encounter with anything else). 

As far as the front truck derailing, first thing I would look at is the track geometry. Make sure you dont have a bent rail or kinked joint thats knocking the rail gauge out of whack. Check the front axle on the turbine for the same problem (out of gauge or not freely spinning). I dont think it would jump a 120 curve without some sort of problem. I assume the truck is rotating freely. The other possibility (which is incredibly slim on that wide of a curve), is that the roller is coming off the center rail then lifting the truck off with it.

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