Who and when was the first RR to consider the concept that CTC can be installed and 1 or even more mainline tracks could be removed? Either leaving 2 mains or track and a half.
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might have been in north west ohio on the b&o either deshler or fostoria to toledo,ohio, i think.Jim
Originally Posted by Mike W.:
Who and when was the first RR to consider the concept that CTC can be installed and 1 or even more mainline tracks could be removed? Either leaving 2 mains or track and a half.
Sorry I don't get the question .
Originally Posted by Gregg:
Originally Posted by Mike W.:
Who and when was the first RR to consider the concept that CTC can be installed and 1 or even more mainline tracks could be removed? Either leaving 2 mains or track and a half.
Sorry I don't get the question .
Neither do I.
Question restated. In US Rail History...which railroad was the first to realize you could install CTC and reduce two or main tracks to fewer tracks with passing sidings. Who did this and when did this occur.
The B&O is all double track now right..especially in the Ohio area once all the traffic comes off the New York Central...
I can't think of any of that in the west.
In the east, however, major track reductions from installation of CTC occurred on NYC, and in several places on railroads which were included in CSX.
But the first? I'll do research and try to find out.
I 'm still not getting it... Double track is still better (faster) than single track CTC.
Originally Posted by Gregg:
I 'm still not getting it... Double track is still better (faster) than single track CTC.
Gregg,
One of the things to take into consideration is the amount of taxes that were paid on all of the track. If some could be taken up to save money, that's what they did. "Single Track" Saunders had a piece of our double track taken up, however, they took up the wrong piece! A lot of middle tracks were taken up too.
CTC was developed by Segwick North Wight. (I remember that easily because my wife's maiden name is Wight. May be about a 94th cousin). If you can find biographical info on him, it might lead you to your answer.
Originally Posted by Mike W.:
Question restated. In US Rail History...which railroad was the first to realize you could install CTC and reduce two or main tracks to fewer tracks with passing sidings. Who did this and when did this occur.
The B&O is all double track now right..
well not really mike, alot of the c&o toledo-fostoria-columbus ,ohio is now single track,formally 2 track in pre ctc days. the ex-pennsy chicago - pittsburgh-enola,pa would be another one.im not just sure who was first.
..update...i just done a searchon ctc and the first time it was used was in 1927 on the nyc line fromstanley to berwick,ohio. the control board was in f tower in fostoria,ohio.-Jim
Here it states CTC on the Philadelphia and Erie in the 1870's, but not practical until the 1920's.
Gregg, you're correct, but either ACL or CSX did that south of Richmond and it's been a mess ever since, as freights jockey with 4-5 Amtrak trains each day each way, incluing the very long AutoTrain.
I was on the Silver Meteor a few years ago that had to pull onto a passing siding behind a freight one dark foggy night. When the opposite direction train passed, the Meteor backed out onto the main to go around that freight. But the bean counters were happy!
Originally Posted by RJR:
Gregg, you're correct, but either ACL or CSX did that south of Richmond and it's been a mess ever since, as freights jockey with 4-5 Amtrak trains each day each way, incluing the very long AutoTrain.
I was on the Silver Meteor a few years ago that had to pull onto a passing siding behind a freight one dark foggy night. When the opposite direction train passed, the Meteor backed out onto the main to go around that freight. But the bean counters were happy!
During the Moyers era on IC, they went from double track ABS to single track CTC with some REALLY long sidings. I believe that arrangement continues today under CN.
Found this link on Edward Moyers on Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_L._Moyers
Regards,
Jerry
Isn't the B&O main double track all the way? If I am not mistaken, the heavy traffic off the former NYC from Buffalo, etc... hits the B&O at Greenwich making for even more trains between there and Chicago. If it is single track anywhere I can't think of it.
I have often wondered why the C&O had more single track on the busiest part in the portions west of WV.
From the book In Search of Safety,
"On July 25, 1927 Wight's CTC was installed and tried on the Toledo & Ohio Central between Stanley and Berwick, Ohio." The DS was in Fostoria.
Mr Wight worked for GRS Company.
