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We have had a brutal winter in the northeast and today we got a break with outside temperatures in the twenties. So I got to spend some quality time in the train room and finally put the scale PE away till next Christmas season and replaced it on the layout with the new Sante Fe Hi-Level El Capitan. I had a set of Lionel PAs, so they are now assigned to the El Capitan service. There are two head cars to be added, a baggage car to be converted from 2-Rail to three, and an RPO that is having the name boards being changed to the Sante Fe. When complete, it will be a beautiful addition to the passenger train fleet.

 

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Brian - That is a beautiful passenger train!  It looks great on your layout where it can stretch it's legs and you can see the entire train on a straightway.  I know you have wanted this train for a long time and it was definitely worth waiting for.  Pardon my ignorance, but what do you call the second car? 

 

Art

Art:

 

The "current" first car is the Transition car. The second is the Step Down Coach. Note the location of the diaphragm.

 

As I mentioned, as soon as the work is complete, I will add a baggage car, then an RPO followed by the Transition car, etc. This will make a consist of nine. I may add two or three more Hi-Levels if I can find them.

Thanks Brian, Jason, Keith, & Dave.

 

K-Line was way ahead of the market (in it's time) in producing beautiful passenger trains. This has to be one of their best. There has been a good deal of discussion on the Forum lately about achieving a realistic stainless steel look. K-Line also was ahead of the industry in this regard as well.

Brian,

   You bet K-line made some great passenger rolling stock and that particular one is probably the very best that was ever made by any company, got to admit my MTH big Silver Pennsy Passenger cars are nice, especially with the GG-1, but your SS look with the K-line Hi-Level passenger cars is even better, top shelf stuff all the way.  Man  what a Railroad Train!

PCRR/Dave

 

Last edited by Pine Creek Railroad
Originally Posted by Laidoffsick:
I can tell you... I'm jealous! I have lots of Santa Fe power to pull that train if you ever decide it's not for you! :-)

I have a set of Williams El Capitan passenger cars that are not seeing any usage if you are interested in them. It's a six car set from the Crown Edition era with lighted interiors and opening knuckle couplers. Also a set of ABA Santa Fe F-7's by Williams.

 

Lee Fritz

 

I have a set of Williams El Capitan passenger cars that are not seeing any usage if you are interested in them. It's a six car set from the Crown Edition era with lighted interiors and opening knuckle couplers. Also a set of ABA Santa Fe F-7's by Williams.

 

Lee Fritz

Hmmm... Are those the double-deckers?  If he isn't interested, I may be!  

Looks great Brian. I hope you and Elizabeth had a lot of fun watching them go round and round and round. It really can be sort of mesmerizing. And there's nothing like a gleaming Santa Fe.

 

I've been doing some work on my layout and recently had an opportunity to take a closer look at the 1991 Lionel Santa Fe set. I knew I loved them when I bought them. They have window silhouettes rather than people in the cars. But after looking at them again, I STILL LOVE THEM. They don't have the level of detail of the new ones (I have the new 18" Lionel Santa Fe passenger cars), but it sort of goes back to that childhood wish list and the place of the gleaming Santa Fe in it. Still beautiful after all these years.

 

Gerry

Originally Posted by scottn941:
 

I have a set of Williams El Capitan passenger cars that are not seeing any usage if you are interested in them. It's a six car set from the Crown Edition era with lighted interiors and opening knuckle couplers. Also a set of ABA Santa Fe F-7's by Williams.

 

Lee Fritz

Hmmm... Are those the double-deckers?  If he isn't interested, I may be!  

These are not double deckers, but have two vista dome passenger cars in the set. I have to measure the cars for the best answer but I think that they are either 15 or 16 inches long. There is one baggage car and one combo car(baggage & passenger) and three passenger cars with one being a vista dome, and one observation car at the end that has a vista dome as well and the end car has only one knuckle coupler.

 

Lee Fritz

railride:

 

I have no idea what the power draw is for this set. I do however have sufficient power to handle what is soon to be a nine car set. A future project would be to change the lighting in the cars to LEDs, but honestly, I am in no rush to do it. I like the yellowish lighting effect form the current lighting, but I am sure it could be closely duplicated with LEDs.

 

Gerry:

 

I love the Lionel passenger cars, with or without silhouettes. You should treat that 1991 set like gold. Two of my regular main line runners have silhouette windows, the Sante Fe Super Chief from the early nineties and the Texas Special from 2001.

 

Peter:

 

Many thanks for your comments. I have looked for this set for a long time.

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We had a similar discussion on several of my passenger trains and the power draw was not nearly as bad as we thought.  That being said, I agree that LED's are definitely the way to go.  Now that they have all the different color balances available, you can replicate the warm incandescent glow and not have to settle for a stark white.

 

My worst power draw was my total K-Line Union Pacific City of Los Angeles.  It has an ABA set of E-8's that have two motors each and that is the big electrical draw.

 

Art

I prefer to run Amtrak in the three rail world and I don't worry as much about era as I run three rail for the most part at a club operating for the public.  Colorful trains rule the road. At home I am mostly strict PRR / CNJ 1954-1957 in two rail with two exceptions. 

 

The question is the one of road power.  I just picked up an MTH FP45 in the Modern SF Warbonnet scheme with the idea of converting it to an SDP40F.  Not an easy conversion if anyone has followed the threads on the 3RS forum.  I actually kind of like the FP45 as is with a few less drastic upgrades and I am looking for a second where I might back date them to 1968 which would work well for a late combined Super Chief / El Capitan. 

 

However, I do have 7 single level GGD cars in Amtrak and a combined train at close to 20 cars would be out of this world.  I could go with a pair of F40PHs in Phase II paint and it would be passable too however I am having a hard enough time finding even a single F40PH in VIA Rail Canada to pull my soon to arrive Canadian.  Choices, choices!   

 

Regardless, K-line really did hit a home run with their set of cars.  They simply look great on a train.

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Awesome photos!
 
Originally Posted by Passenger Train Collector:

We have had a brutal winter in the northeast and today we got a break with outside temperatures in the twenties. So I got to spend some quality time in the train room and finally put the scale PE away till next Christmas season and replaced it on the layout with the new Sante Fe Hi-Level El Capitan. I had a set of Lionel PAs, so they are now assigned to the El Capitan service. There are two head cars to be added, a baggage car to be converted from 2-Rail to three, and an RPO that is having the name boards being changed to the Sante Fe. When complete, it will be a beautiful addition to the passenger train fleet.

 

Click on the photos to increase their size.

 

 

 

el cap 1

el cap2

el cap4

 

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