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Not sure where to post this, so I'm taking a wild guess with my first post with photos.

Nor am I sure why I'm posting this, other than I think the folks here might be interested.


This engine was handed down to me by a relative and I've carried it with me for the past 25+ years, but haven't done any serious research or digging into the details, but figured the great folks here might appreciate seeing it.  I recall my dad saying he saw it run around a big loop of track, probably in the late 40's or early 50's, and his recollection is that it was very loud.  I have never seen it run, nor tried to do any detailed investigation into it (yet) - but I really should get my dad to tell me more about it and document what he remembers....  As I recall, it was custom made by an Industrial Arts class, possibly East Peoria, IL.  It has a gas powered engine, driving a generator, which powers two automobile power-window motors (from the 40's?), that drive the trucks.  The track says Buddy L, and that is all the track that I have.


When it was handed down to me, it came with a blueprint of an EA-6 2000 HP Engine from Electro-Motive Corporation in LaGrange, IL.  The drawing number is 8059700.  The drawing is dated 1/14/1941 (original release) with an "A" Supplemental Revision done 4/15/1941.  The blueprint is actually stamped with a date in the white box with red ink in the lower right hand corner: Aug 10 1941. The drawing is definitely showing it's age.  

 

If there are any EMC or EA-6 experts who care to shed any light on what I have, it would be greatly appreciated.  Other than that, enjoy these 70+ yr. old items.

 

Thanks for looking, Dave  TCA 12-67868


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Dave,

 

You've got quite a unique and interesting piece there!  I think the TCA would be interested in seeing it and publishing photos in the TCA Collector's magazine for one of their features on these types of oddities.

 

I wanted to make a couple of comments about it that haven't been mentioned above in your thread....the livery appears to be vaguely based on the Rock Island Rocket crack train that ran from Chicago to Colorado Springs.  Like your piece, the Rock Island's engines that EMD built for that train were unique to the RIRR.  The locos were designated "TA" and "TB", I believe.  The "T" designation was for "Twelve Hundred Horsepower."  Here's the link to the Wikipedia article on these engines:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_TA

 

The train actually ran to Limon in Eastern Colorado, and then split into two sections with one going on to Denver and the other to Colorado Springs.  What was unique about the TA A-B set of engines was that the B unit actually had its own cab with windshield on one of its square ends and that TB engine was the one that pulled the head end section the rest of the way into Denver, while the true A unit which looked something like your one of a kind operating gas-electric engine, finished pulling the back end of the train into the Springs.  On the return trip to Chicago, the process was reversed in Limon where the two sections of the train were re-joined and the TB unit coupled back behind the TA unit to run "elephant style" on the trip eastbound.

 

Again, you have an incredibly interesting and noteworthy locomotive there and it would be fun to restore it to full operation on Buddy L track, perhaps with a set of "Brute-Scaled" passenger cars painted in the Rock Island Rocket's livery!  Now that would be something to see!

 

Impressedbear

Bearlead, you have the right idea, but let's get some facts straightened out:

  • The unique Rocky Mountain Rocket diesels were Model AB6, and they were box shaped like an E6B, but with a cab and headlight/Mars light on one end, and the paint and end striping was styled after the A-units, unlike other Rock Island B-units.  They ran as the second unit of the two-unit consist from Chicago to Limon, keeping the streamlined look of the train intact, and, at Limon, the leading E6A cut away from it , the AB6 departed with the Colorado Springs section and the E6A continued with the Denver section.
  • There were no TB's - only TA's.
  • Rock Island E3's and E6's ran to Peoria, Kansas City, Dallas,, Houston, and other destinations besides Denver in the pre-war days, and, post-war, were used everywhere on the system, including Tucumcari, NM.

Just sayin' . . .

Tom,

 

Thanks for straightening me out on the AB6 Rocket B unit vs my erroneous post referring to the Rocket's B unit as a "TB".  I confess I was flying without a net there.  My memory-faulted knowledge about this unique set of locomotives came from two sources, a railfan movie/video on streamliners that showed the unique pair of Rock Island engines and the two sections of the train being split up at Limon and then later on the eastbound trip being reassembled for the trip back to Chicago.  The other source was a book which I believe is actually entitled Streamliners containing similar information.  

 

I don't want you to think my error resulted from intellectual laziness, however.  Since moving to the new house, none of the boxes containing my extensive collection of books and videos have been unpacked yet, so I had to "wing it" figuring someone like you might be able to straighten me out if I got it wrong.

 

You rose to the occasion, Tom, and thanks.

 

WingingItBear

Originally Posted by Bearlead:

Tom,

 

I don't want you to think my error resulted from intellectual laziness, however.  Since moving to the new house, none of the boxes containing my extensive collection of books and videos have been unpacked yet, so I had to "wing it" . . .

 

WingingItBear

I don't wing it as well as I used to either.  Don't feel like you're alone there. No demerits were assessed.

 

The model is a really interesting machine, though, and every day is a good day to remember the Rock Island, especially the Rocket era.

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