I know it's possible to add a sound board to a conventional locomotive and get whistle, bell and engine sounds. What I am wondering is if it is possible to somehow add engine sound to a conventional steam or diesel loco that already has whistle and bell capability. I guess what I am wondering is if anyone makes an engine sound only add-on board. Thanks.
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Yes you can Bucky . Get a hold of boxcar bill on the forum here. He will get you on your way.
AC Sound System Overview http://www.dallee.com/AC_Sound_Overview.html
The AC SOUND SYSTEM consists of two boards. The first board is the power supply board and Whistle/Horn/Bell decoder for standard AC operators. The second board is the main sound system. This system can be connected to virtually any locomotive operating with standard AC track power. To operate the Whistle/Horn and Bell requires conventional control buttons. These can be found as external control units or integral to the transformer. Dallee also offers two different conventional controllers. Information on them can be found on our web site AC SOUND CONTROLLER. The main sound board measures less than 1" wide X 2¾" long X ½" high. The power supply board is quite small, it measures less than ¾" wide X 1.¾" long X 1" high. The volume control is located on the main sound board as well as a rate control. There are two connecting wire harnesses between the power supply board and the main sound board which are 6" in length. They both are equipped with double sided tape to secure them to the chassis. You do however have to select an appropriate speaker, listed on page 6. These speakers were specifically selected for their sound output versus the audio input power as well as their sound quality and durability. They are quite efficient! For most "O" gauge installations, the recommended speaker would be item #214, "S" gauge installations would use item #212 or #213. Both gauges could also utilize some of the oval speakers as well. The oval speakers are highly recommended for diesel locomotive's with an EMD type prime mover since these produce low frequencies. The steam sound systems feature an "auto-chuff" function. This will produce 16 levels of exhaust chuff versus the applied motor voltage. This way the exhaust chuff will speed up and slow down in a smooth fashion instead of jumping to different exhaust rates as you run your locomotive. You can also elect to make the steam sound system synchronized via our optical pickup (item 583) or a switch input. There are two controls on the sound board. The first is to set the volume, the second is to either set the auto-chuff chuff speed or the diesel rpm versus the motor voltage. This allows you to set the desired speed at which the sounds operate in regards to the applied motor voltage. This way you can fine tune how your sound system will respond to the applied motor voltage. If you choose to utilize the LocoMatic™ Controller, then you can also operate extra features of the sound system. You will however require an additional choke (item 701 or 702). The extra features for a Steam sound system include "main sounds off" and "cylinder blow down". The "main sounds off" feature allows the operator to turn off all of the sounds produced by the sound system except for the Whistle and Bell. The "cylinder blow down" function allows for the operator to open the ball-cock's up on the steam locomotive before pulling the engine out. This allows for steam to clear up any condensed water in the cylinders before pulling the train out. The extra features for a Diesel Locomotive are "main sounds off" and "force Notch 8". Again, the "main sounds off" feature allows the operator to turn off all of the sounds produced by the sound system except for the Horn and Bell. The "force Notch 8" feature allows the operator to override any existing notch (RPM) that the prime mover is operating at. This allows the prime mover to operate full bore so that enough propulsion energy can be made to pull the heavy load up a grade as well as pump up the air tanks before pulling the train out. Don't forget, Diesel locomotives operate via electric motors. The Diesel motor turns a generator which makes the electricity to power the electric traction motors. So it is necessary for the prime mover to generate a lot of electric power when pulling a heavy load up a grade. With this function, you can simulate this type of operation yielding a more prototypical operation of your train. STEAM - DIESEL - ELECTRIC - MISCELLANEOUS - SPEAKERS - CONTROLLER |
We use these systems and they work great.
Thanks
Pat
I know it's possible to add a sound board to a conventional locomotive and get whistle, bell and engine sounds. What I am wondering is if it is possible to somehow add engine sound to a conventional steam or diesel loco that already has whistle and bell capability. I guess what I am wondering is if anyone makes an engine sound only add-on board. Thanks.
I don't think so, you will still get a second set of whistles and bells. I am pretty sure all the aftermarket sound systems come with whistle/horn and bell.
The only sound only I know of was the Sound of Steam without bell/whistle which was lionel in the 70s. G
For conventional operation, you can install an ERR RailSounds Commander which will give you whistle, bell, and engine or steam sounds. A bonus is that it also has a growth path to full command operation if you ever decide to go that way. The price of this unit at ERR is $99.99, and you can usually get a discount on that price from ERR dealers.
I know it's possible to add a sound board to a conventional locomotive and get whistle, bell and engine sounds. What I am wondering is if it is possible to somehow add engine sound to a conventional steam or diesel loco that already has whistle and bell capability. I guess what I am wondering is if anyone makes an engine sound only add-on board. Thanks.
Some questions for you............
Is it acceptable to use an additional speaker (since a new board may not be compatible with an existing one at the amplifier output)? For chug, do you have a cam? Which diesels (or just a generic)? To throttle the sound up and down can you tap into the motor (or track power for conventional)?
What is the market target price? Really, what's it worth to you?
Regards,
Lou N
I know it's possible to add a sound board to a conventional locomotive and get whistle, bell and engine sounds. What I am wondering is if it is possible to somehow add engine sound to a conventional steam or diesel loco that already has whistle and bell capability. I guess what I am wondering is if anyone makes an engine sound only add-on board. Thanks.
Some questions for you............
Is it acceptable to use an additional speaker (since a new board may not be compatible with an existing one at the amplifier output)? For chug, do you have a cam? Which diesels (or just a generic)? To throttle the sound up and down can you tap into the motor (or track power for conventional)?
What is the market target price? Really, what's it worth to you?
Regards,
Lou N
Well, for example, could a three year old Williams diesel with the usual bell and horn get engine sounds without spending an amount close to what a new similar Williams that had all three now costs, which is pretty reasonable. Or getting engine sounds in a Lionel diesel from a few years ago that already has electronic bell and horn.
Bucky
Two questions................
Are the Williams sound units now available in the aftermarket? That is, the ones with the prime mover sound?
Pick a prime mover so i can load a sound file and play around.
Lou N
Two questions................
Are the Williams sound units now available in the aftermarket? That is, the ones with the prime mover sound?
Pick a prime mover so i can load a sound file and play around.
Lou N
Lou, I didn't know until today that Bachmann was even planning to put out an add-on prime mover module for their locos that have TruBlast II horn and bell sounds. I assume it is not ready yet. Anyway, I guess that is what I would want to get to put in my Williams U-Boat. --- Bucky
Lou N
Two questions................
Are the Williams sound units now available in the aftermarket? That is, the ones with the prime mover sound?
Pick a prime mover so i can load a sound file and play around.
Lou N
Lou, I didn't know until today that Bachmann was even planning to put out an add-on prime mover module for their locos that have TruBlast II horn and bell sounds. I assume it is not ready yet. Anyway, I guess that is what I would want to get to put in my Williams U-Boat. --- Bucky
You could probably buy it as a part.
You could probably buy it as a part.
That's what I will do. Thanks people.
Bucky
Take a look at this product. There is also a $12 remote that allows configuration and access to other sounds. http://www.modelrectifier.com/...uct-view.asp?ID=8287
See this thread on this unit: https://ogrforum.com/t...rs-are-back-in-stock
Take a look at this product. There is also a $12 remote that allows configuration and access to other sounds. http://www.modelrectifier.com/...uct-view.asp?ID=8287
See this thread on this unit: https://ogrforum.com/t...rs-are-back-in-stock
Good lead. I could use the MRC product as well. Thanks.