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Hi,

 

   I wanted to bounce something off of you all to see what I am doing wrong.  I am working on a post war layout and wanted to try to elevate one of my runs.  The total height of the run is 2 1/2" and I am using the trestles from L up to the 2 1/2" one before running across a wooden platform.  My question is about the speed of the engine, I am testing with a 221 and have also tested my pair of 218 engines.  As you can see in the photo the consist is not very long or of heavy weight cars, but as soon as the engine gets to the first trestle is starts to dog it until it levels off on the wooden platform.  I am using a 1033 90-watt trasnformer with the throttle pegged at the top.  Once the engine levels off it is fine and then it flies down the down slope, which makes sense.  Am I asking too much of the engines and should I go with a lower platform?  Is the 1033 transformer not beg enough for the elevation?  The engines run fine on the flatt outer loop and event that smaller inner loop.

 

 

   Thank you for your time,

 

     Kevin Coyle

 

 

 

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Kevin,

 

Your engine is fine, your transformer is fine, and your idea is fine. The problem is that the postwar trains need alot of power to move. They have those big AC motors in them. They don't have speed control, so naturally they will need variable power to operate on an incline and the decent. You have to manually operate the throttle on your transformer to maintain a somewhat steady speed up the incline and across the wood platform and then down the decent.

 

One way to do it hands off is to either get 4 different transformers or a ZW transformer that has four throttles.

 

You would need to insulate the level tracks from the incline track and the decent track. Then power each insulated section by a different throttle. That way you can set each throttle for a certain voltage and the engine should carry a steady speed all around that part of your layout.

 

Lionel did this on some of their Postwar department store display layouts back in the early days.

 

I hope this helps. Good luck.

 

Mike R

just as curves benefit from easements, so do trestles.  it looks like you have the standard 3rail grade of 5% (½" rise for every 10" track) which is tough on any locomotive.  if you cannot extend the entire grade (get yourself another trestle set and cut up a mess of ¼" spacers for a 2.5% grade), at least extend the runs another 20" and slip in 0.25" & 2.25" risers where appropriate.  you'll probably see a little better operation.

 

adding some weight over the drive wheels in those light O27 locomotives wouldn't hurt either.

 

cheers...gary

Is the engine slipping while climbing the grade or just slowing down?  There's not a lot of mass to the stamped frame Alco's and the magnetraction may be pooping out.  If the Alco's motor itself is slowing down, it may need some cleaning.

 

Do the cars roll freely?  If not, look for gook build-up by the wheels at the axles, clean and lube.  It's amazing how a drop of oil makes a difference on PW trains.

 

Rusty

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