ERR PRODUCT INFO QUESTION - NEED A LITTLE CLARIFICATION

Freight Train JimOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

I need information on what components I would have to purchase to upgrade a Lionel 18203 CP SD-40 from the 1990's. It has dual Pullmor motors.

The question is what component or components do I need to purchase to upgrade to TMCC with Cruise. I know Railsounds can be added later. It does appear the ERR AC Commander is needed but does this include cruise or is another component needed ?

I have tried contacting ERR in CA but they put me off to others. Their website is not clear at least to me.

Thanks for any help.

8/15/184:58 PM

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The only option to upgrade a loco with pullmor motors is the AC Commander. There is no availability for cruise on those motors. Purchase an AC Commander, EMD Railspinds board and 2 electrocpuplers and that’ll do ya. Everything you need will come with those items

8/15/185:17 PM

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romiller49OGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

I’m pretty sure Timko offers can motors that will fit into this style motor. It fits into the space after removing the armature. You have to call him. After that the standard cruise commander will work.

8/15/185:40 PM

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Mike CTOGR Forum Member

This is an older Weaver E8 with Timko can replacement motors.

8/15/185:49 PM

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Mike CTOGR Forum Member

As you work through one of these upgrades, other considerations. Speaker/sound system, Electro-couplers, Marker light additions, and change of headlight/tail lights to 18 volts, often existing 12 volt lighting may not do well with the new electronics.

8/15/187:27 PM

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romiller49OGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

The motors that freight train Jim has are the ones that have the field as part of the truck and not like the weaver style.

8/15/188:20 PM

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Former Member

If you’re gonna put Timko motors and do a full ERR upgrade, I’d sell it and buy the TMCC version that was done. It’s a much nicer model

8/15/188:31 PM

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gunrunnerjohnOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Mike CT posted:
This is an older Weaver E8 with Timko can replacement motors.

Can you explain the logic of replacing the can motors on that one? I've upgraded several Weaver and Williams with the older motors with no flywheels, they ran fine with the Cruise Commander. It seems redundant to spend the money for the upgrade for that puny flywheel, it doubt it has much effect.

8/16/189:13 AM

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Mike CTOGR Forum Member

gunrunnerjohn posted:
Mike CT posted:
This is an older Weaver E8 with Timko can replacement motors.
Can you explain the logic of replacing the can motors on that one? I've upgraded several Weaver and Williams with the older motors with no flywheels, they ran fine with the Cruise Commander. It seems redundant to spend the money for the upgrade for that puny flywheel, it doubt it has much effect.

At the time EOB was the hot item from TAS. Tough to do EOB without the flywheels and tach-strips. ERR speed control more recent.

8/16/1812:30 PM

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Falcon70OGR Forum Member

Great answer CT! Great logic also! 😏

8/16/1812:39 PM

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gunrunnerjohnOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Makes sense Mike, I was curious as to the logic.