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Full disclosure - I don’t have that many locomotives, but I do believe I have some nice ones and the majority is steamers. 

 

My first 2 scale models were the MTH Premier N&W J and the NYC Mohawk, with the latter being my fave for a while due to amazing smoke production, elephant ears and graceful running gear detail.  At some point, I decided to try Lionel because of the whistle steam, and my first such engine was the Legacy Southern Crescent.  Love the variable glow firebox and glowing ash pan, but was completely entranced by the whistle steam!  To me, the two fundamental charms of a real steamer are its running gear and that it seems to billow steam from every orifice.  When buying a realistic scale model, the closer in realism to the real thing, the better for me.  For clarity, I don’t mean “realism” in terms of number of bolt heads or every last physical detail.  I mean operating features that emulate those of the real thing, which have the effect of putting a smile firmly on my face.  In any event, I have been enjoying my VLBB and for the past two weeks have been convinced it is my favorite as the most realistic in terms of features.  But last night, I put my VL Challenger on the track with the VLBB and, all things considered, I must say that the VL Challenger is still my favorite in terms of realism.  At idle, it just sits there with steam billowing out of the bottom rear, shooting up out of the dynamo and smoldering from the 2 stacks – without having to lift a finger to trigger any effects!  And, of course, it too has whistle steam, the glowing ash pan, etc.  To me, this is about as close in appearance to a real steamer (even at idle) as you can get.    

 

Peter

 

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I'd say that my most realistic piece would have to be the Geo. Kohs N&W Y6b.  This two rail machine is as detailed as you could imagine, and the overall look is correct as well. There is only one discrepency that I've located, and that is only an issue because of the road number I picked when purchasing.  I've never really tried to run this loco, but the looks are quite outstanding !  This is one place where brass has a definate edge in model RR construction.

Hard to beat Weaver's Milwaukee Road F6a 4-6-4 Baltic for detail and realistic appearance, at least without getting into Koh's, which is on another planet for both detail and cost.

 

But when we talk about "realism," do we just mean appearance, or are we talking about sound and operational features as well? If so, Lionel's excellent sound quality, the whizbang Legacy smoke features, and correct, prototypical sound (different from sound quality as such) would all be legitimate factors. The UP 4-12-2 provides an excellent example. I used to have a 3rd Rail brass 4-12-2. It looked a bit better and had slightly more detail than the MTH equivalent. BUT, the MTH had superior smoke, better and more prototypical sound, and it didn't slow down on curves like the 3rd Rail engine did. I compared my 3rd Rail engine with an MTH unit belonging to a friend, and decided to sell the 3rd Rail engine and buy an MTH one. The 3rd Rail model was more realistic in appearance; the MTH version was more realistic in operation. Which was more "realistic"? Depends on your definition.

Originally Posted by Texas Pete:
Originally Posted by mwb:

Any from SMR,

Although I lack the vaguest idea as to the "realism" of SMR locos, I am saving up for one of them anyway.  I don't even care which one, they're that exquisite!

 

Pete

I have the PRR D6a - it's very, very close to the plans and specs.

 

My only regret is that it was not a D7,

If we move away from appearance and model fidelity,  and go with features and sound for example.....I'd pass on the N&W Y6b Kohs, and instead roll with the Lionel first run PRR 2-10-4 J1 Texas.  This mill is not quite as physically "big" as the Sunset 3rd Rail incarnation of this infamous Beastie, but she has great detail and awesome features. The sound that Lionel used is actual PRR J1 stuff...most likely from the Al Shade collection. The whole thing is just phenominal..and superior to the generic sounds used the the later VL Jay. The cab chatter includes a reference to Tiro, Ohio...a tiny hamlet on the PRR Sandusky Line north out of Columbus.  Just perfect for the road number and pilot beam terminal assignment (BI)  Buckeye / Indy.  The whistle and exhaust is absolutely over the top, except for the number of chugs.  You can relive your childhood with this machine, with the lights out !

I do not believe that this question can be answered rationally once one has been well exposed to a large number of modern steamer models, as many of us have.

 

We will accept the middle rail and its baggage in light of this discussion's setting; "2 rails" will not be seen as an inherent advantage. 

 

If one has seen only a handful of them, regardless of their actual quality, a favorite

could be chosen from among these few only.

 

But: if one factors in -when- I first saw the loco - that is, at what age and considering the state of model quality at the time - then and only then could I provide an answer:

 

The original Lionel 700E NYC J1e Hudson #5344. The Vision version is just as good, or better. There have been many steamers since then, from Lionel and others, which surpass the original 5344 from an objective point of view (Lionel's own J3a, in most ways, to me), but the imprinting of that detail-encrusted and realistically-proportioned 5344 on my young brain is, to this day, one of the primary reasons that I am in this hobby -and- a New York Central fan.

 

Potent stuff, that Hudson. One wonders how different parts of this O-gauge hobby would

be if JLC had chosen the Southern Ps-4 or the PRR K4s for his magnum opus. The K4 probably had a shot, but the Southern loco, and most others, were too far off the beam

in terms of sales, if nothing else. Of course, being a New Yorker, all other steamers were probably far less likely to be picked by him, in any case.

 

Plus - just LOOK at that J1e, for Pete's sake.  

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I've got a Lionel Pennsylvania 2-10-4. It's got a considerable amount detail. Apparently not of what 3rd rail is offering as what "Hot Water" said his will do on the reverser, but Pennsy 2-10-4 is the favorite of my steamers, also getting ready to install the "Super Smoker". That should about do it!....................Brandy! 

I would concur with D500 above about the Hudson. It has a definitive 'mystique' probably created by old Josh's scale 700e. I still like them so choosing from among our stable I would place K-Line's exceptional model No 5344 just slightly ahead of our MR No 261 S3. The Beautiful Northern has more features and a lot going for it so this is a close pick.

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I would concur with D500 above about the Hudson. It has a definitive 'mystique' probably created by old Josh's scale 700e. I still like them so choosing from among our stable I would place K-Line's exceptional model No 5344 just slightly ahead of our MR No 261 S3. The Beautiful Northern has more features and a lot going for it so this is a close pick.

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Have to agree with the K-Line Hudson. Love it, and about the only engine that is not rotated from the layout.

Originally Posted by Passenger Train Collector:

3rd Rail produces the most actuate steam locomotives. 

 

I own several 3rd Rail engines and have owned and sold a few more. I will put my Weaver Milwaukee Road F6a 4-6-4 next to any of them for accuracy and detail. This is not to downgrade 3rd Rail, just to say that the best Weaver products are every bit their equal.

My favorite steam model is the Sunset High Iron K4s from 2005.  I have two of these beauties in 2 rail and while the front porch is slightly long to accommodate the pony truck of the 3 rail version, it most accurately depicts my favorite steam locomotive at half the cost of the more accurate PSC version and the Sunset one runs out of the box. Here is a photo of it on Ed Rappe's layout prior to me purchasing my first one. 

 

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And it's sister photographed on what passes for a home layout.

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The Sunset J1 is a nice locomotive as well.  Not at all prototypical for where I model, but I just love the size of this monster.  It will be pulling P70s down the Jersey shore on my layout at some point.

 

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