Finding 6 Conductor Crossover Tele Wire

The home stores have Cat5e with 4 twisted pairs of 24AWG stranded. Use only three pair. It doesn't need any modular connectors, does it? You just need the wire, right?

What gauge do you need?   I use 5 or 8 conductor  HVAC thermostate multi colored 18 gauge for wire drops.

Now I'm syncing up. I don't need any connectors, and wire size in both cases is good. Thank you both for the info! Terry

Radio shack 6 wire phone cable... no modifications required ,

Hi Gregg,

Do you mean this one? Specs don't list # of conductors-only 1 reviewer hinted that it has 6 conductors. @$.48\ft. it's pricey, compared to Cat5e at $.19 or cheaper if you find a local seller on the list or the thermostat wire. You do have to cut the connectors off ...modify the cable.

Just a note on Crossover.  It usually applies to one or more sets of wires being reversed in the modular Jack (RJ45) installation.  Example:   Blue/Blue white on one end reverses to Blue white/Blue on the other end.   

Yep pretty sure that's the one, We no longer have radio shack north of the border. a  25 footer  for $12.  RS web's site for this kind of thing is all over the place, I had a hard time finding the cable. I believe there also was a 15 footer available at one time.

Generally the 6 conductor cable is a handset cable (6 wires), not a line cable (4 wires).

Before you buy that cable, look closely, they have both 4 and 6 conductor cables.

You do not want the 4 conductor cable.

Actually, the 6 conductor is a wall connection, not the handset.  The Handset cable is at maximum a 4 pin cable using the RJ9 connector, that's all the jack size accommodates.  The RJ25 plugs have six conductors, they connect from the phone instrument to the wall connection.

However, you're right about the six conductor, you need them all for the AIU connection.

here you go:

and line 1 is the center pair, line two, the next pair to the outside an so on. voice or data - same cable. although voice doesn't require the new CAT6 cable and connectors for new installs. the 4 conductor connector will fit/work in a 6 or 8 conductor connector. it works.

As it turns out, the one configuration you need for the AIU isn't there, the 6 conductor crossover with RJ-25 plugs.

Terry, did you ever find what you were looking for? How many feet of wire are you needing?

To make your own, not only do you need the cable and plugs, but a cripping tool for the plugs. Terry offers the stuff.

http://www.customsignals.com/parts-modular.php

Dan

From his March 18 post:

"Now I'm syncing up. I don't need any connectors, and wire size in both cases is good. Thank you both for the info! Terry"

Well, the OP hasn't replied for sometime. When he said he didn't need connectors, I determined that he wanted the AIU to accessory wire.

Isn't the modular cable included with each AIU for TIU to AIU connection or for daisy chaining connections?

Sorry everyone. Work travel got in the way of staying up to date. Funny thing about that!

Moonman. I do have the furnished crossover wire for the AIU to the TIU.

I'm getting out the book and directions again this evening. It sounds and looks to me that I was mixing up this crossconnector that was provided and the AIU to accessory wire.

Dan. Thanks for the resource!

I'll be back on line this weekend with the real deal and see if I've been barking up the wrong tree as I learn more about DCS.

Thanks again for ALL the replies.  Terry

Check this page, how does $1.57 sound for a 25 foot six conductor cross-wired telephone cable?

http://www.computercablestore....oss_Wi_PID50288.aspx

Here's the whole page with other lengths as well.

http://www.computercablestore....odular_catID113.aspx

I'm good!

Thanks again and gunrunnerjohn and Moonman, Diesel Dan, Russell, Tom Tee, Plandis, Gregg, Mike CT: Many thanks for all the comments, suggestions and details.

I have what I need and will also have to stop reading and posting in the wee hours of the morning!

Thanks again!  Terry

Do tell, what did you end up with?

Alright gunrunnerjohn, I'll fess up and tell a story on myself! Moonman nailed it. I had been putting a lot of hours in at work and the only time I had to read and work on trains was late at night.

I was getting ready to hookup the AIU to the TIU and get some switches installed for DCS.

I "THOUGHT" I read that I needed the 6 conductor crossover telephone wire. I spent several days on-line searching, checking out the forum, etc. and just couldn't get there (again in the wee hours of the night) and decided to post.

It wasn't until the end of the post that I was able to re-read the information and saw that the 6 connector crossover tele wire was the phone plug look alike for the AIU to connect to the TIU (and of course it came with the AIU).

So, not only did I look for the wrong thing, I need to apologize to EVERYONE who posted trying to help. I was only in need of the accessory wire which I have and you can get anywhere. My apologies ALL.

gunrunnerjohn. Thanks for asking the question. I need to get the missteps out there and will try not to do this again (although electricity is not my best skill set).

Thanks again everyone, Terry

Yep, that's the wire.

Of course, if you want the AIU some distance away, you might still need one.  That's what I though you were trying to do.

All's well that ends well, right?

You bet gunrunnerjohn. I now have sources and a whole lot better understanding of wire. Terry

There are some pretty nice tools for making your own cables.   From the Grainger website.

You can buy a lot of pre-made telephone cables for the price of one crimp tool, that's really only an option for someone that's going to make a lot of them.