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Originally Posted by Big Jim:

Well folks, that is not the 611's whistle! I hope the folks at MTH aren't going to record this one and try and pass it off as such.

I was wondering about that. I was told that MTH was sending their "sound man" down there to record 611's whistle, so I wonder what the story about the whistle is. I remember that the whistle from 611 was brought up to Owosso, MI, back in 2009, and was used on PM 1225, however 1225 doesn't carry 300psi boiler pressure either.

I don't know anything about Preston Claytor or whatever frictions developed between him and the Fire Up 611 committee he chaired from its inception; but, I hope he will eventually reconsider his position and return the whistle to its rightful place.

 

In any case, his decision won't detract from the extraordinary achievement of restoring 611 to full operational status in under two years.

I need to poke around Facebook to see if I can find this again. Seems I read that when the 611 was first fired in Spencer, she had the 602's whistle (also on loan).

 

My highly unqualified $0.02, I think there would be a much higher probability of acquiring another "J" whistle (assuming they still exist) or making a new one from original prints. 

 

I preordered my MTH 611 J with the expectation that it would have the correct sound set. Hopefully, there are sufficient recordings pre-1994 that a correct whistle can be included. I sincerely hope that Mike Wolf does not include what I heard today. I would rather have the sound set from the last issue of the 604.

Last edited by Gilly@N&W
Originally Posted by N&W Class J:
Yeah who's whistle was she carrying today?

I wish someone from Spencer would weigh-in. The only thing I'm certain about is that yesterday the 611 did not have her "voice". This is the 1218 (first) and 611 (second) exchanging salutes back in 1992.

 

Personally, I am delighted to see the 611 under power. I would hate to see the issue of the whistle overshadow this achievement. The crew at Spencer worked their tails off to make this happen.

 

FWIW, my grandfather always said that he could tell which locomotive it was by the sound of the whistle, and usually which engineer. Even if another "J" whistle is acquired and installed, I wouldn't expect it to sound exactly like the 611. In this recording of the 602 and 611 whistles, the differences are discernible. 

 

Just found this... I wonder if this is the whistle that is on the 611 now?

Last edited by Gilly@N&W
Originally Posted by Gilly@N&W:

 

Just found this... I wonder if this is the whistle that is on the 611 now?

The whistle on it now sounds like your "run of the mill" hancock 3 chime". It doesn't sound like the "replica" to me.

 

 This is the replica whistle under steam here. With all due respect to Jason, IMO it doesn't sound anything like the original 611 whistle.

 

611 replica whistle test at 1:38:

 

 

 I'm just a dumb*** foamer picking nits, but I would hope if I had a part of history like 611's whistle I would want it back on the locomotive.

 

Last edited by RickO
Originally Posted by Big Jim:
Originally Posted by N&W Class J:
Yeah who's whistle was she carrying today?

I have been told that it belongs to the girl that helps fire the 611 and that it is a UP Hancock whistle.

Funny you should mention that, as I THOUGHT it sounded more "UPish" that what I've always been used to hearing from N&W J Class locomotives, even as far back as the late 1950s. The UP used a "special" Manning, Maxwell & Moore ( a division of Hancock) deep whistle on their "big three" locomotives, and they were supplied with superheated steam.

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