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Scott, thank you for the explaination.  Although the "Southern" 52 seat coach may not have gone to Amtrak, the same type 52 seat car was at Amtrak likely from other roads.  And 10-6 is a standard type car on Amtrak regardless of origin.  I had forwarded pictures via links to friends I was trying to promote ordering these cars.  The copyright on ancient forgotten obscure Amtrak pictures online keeps me from being able to post anything.

I also do not think enough people noticed the offering which was added to the Southern products.  I really think a thread of its own with pics would have drummed up orders. I tried to make a couple of people aware of these cars which required my sending them links to similar cars in various eras of Amtrak paint.  I know one of those friends was about to order cars just as the news came they were nixed.

Not slamming Matt at all, I was very happy to see him on the Trainland 50th event.  I am sure he is one of the great ones at Amtrak! GGD.

A Viewliner dorm/baggage combine, painted in the wide blue band with thin red stripes on top (not sure of the phase number) was made by GGD and I cannot find evidence that any of these were made for Amtrak in anything other than the phase 3 type with 3 stripes of 8" red white and blue.

Scott, as always, appreciate whatever you are able to offer in Amtrak!  Thank you!  Of course I have to try to push for more though!  Thank you for your great interaction with customers.

That Southern set went right over my head!

I have been sitting on an Atlas Zephyr diner for years. I chopped up the antenna and skirts, but it still needs a custom Phase VI paint Job to become my dear friend, #8510 (Silver Café). I need to find someone else for that part when I get back to the States.  I've been looking for a proper Budd 10-6 to complete my Three Rivers train but I haven't been looking that hard.

That said, a handful of these SOU diners were converted to head-end power and ran on Amtrak all the way through the introduction of the Viewliner II. The SOU version of the 10-6 cars were Pullmans and retired in the 80's, however. That was "in the before times," as my niece would say. She's very mean


At least two of the SOU names, "Rappahannock River" and Rapidan River," were given to Viewliner II sleepers. Those are the two Scott sent me. I'm sure there are many others.

If you want to paint a 10-6 in Amtrak colors, it really needs to be a California railroad's Budd car.

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CharmCityAirline, great idea chopping skirts off the Atlas cars!   10-6 would work too.  Look forward to seeing your Silver Cafe in the future!  Silver Tureen was a diner I found on my trips on various trains, mainly the LakeShore Limited.  I had OK Streamliners cut me an extrusion to make a Silver Tureen.  Certainly not the level of Atlas or GGD  but it is what it is.

CharmCityAirline, great idea chopping skirts off the Atlas cars!   10-6 would work too.  Look forward to seeing your Silver Cafe in the future!  Silver Tureen was a diner I found on my trips on various trains, mainly the LakeShore Limited.  I had OK Streamliners cut me an extrusion to make a Silver Tureen.  Certainly not the level of Atlas or GGD  but it is what it is.

I saw your baggage dorm in the other thread! Looks good! Painting is my biggest fear. I wish we had decals in our scale. I inquired at a few places about offering one or two of their HO Phase 4 or 6 decal sets in O scale, but I remember the minimum order needed to be 250.
Sometimes being an O scaler is tough...

I sent the OK streamliner shells to Christine Braden for painting.  Ted at OK Engines/ Streamliners would cut whatever window patterns I wanted.  The windows are a bit too rounded but it beats not having any of the unusual cars at all.   I want to do something to the roof on that dorm car but affraid to mess up the custom paint.

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Finally getting around to posting Viewliner names and numbers for those who are interested.  First Phase III.

Phase III Sleepers:

  • Raritan River - 62405
  • Schuykill River - 62516
  • Tiffen River - 62620
  • Wabash River - 62523



Phase III Diners:

  • Albany - 68000
  • Nashville - 68019
  • Harrisburg - 68012
  • Tallahassee - 68024



Phase III Baggage:

  • 61004
  • 61025
  • 61033
  • 61069



Phase III Baggage Dorm:

  • 69000
  • 69005
  • 69006
  • 69008
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Now the Phase VI cars.  Yes, these are fantasy cars current issues with fantasy schemes aside.

Phase VI Sleepers:

  • Portage River - 62500
  • Potomac River - 62501
  • Rappahannock River - 62503
  • Raritan River - 62504
  • Rivanna River - 62506
  • Roanoke River - 62507
  • Rocky River - 62508
  • Saint Johns River - 62509
  • Saint Josephs River - 62510
  • Saint Marys River - 62511
  • Saluda River - 62512
  • Savannah River - 62515
  • Schuykill River - 62516
  • Tiffen River - 62520
  • Trout River - 62522
  • Wabash River - 62523
  • Westfield River - 62524



Phase VI Diners:

  • Boston - 68005
  • Madison - 68016
  • Montgomery - 68017
  • Richmond - 68022



Phase VI Baggage:

  • 61000
  • 61009
  • 61018
  • 61037



Phase VI Baggage Dorm:

  • 69001
  • 69002
  • 69004
  • 69007


The reason behind the many names on the sleepers is there was an order for that many names in this scheme.  All I can say is that with a few diners, a baggage, and a baggage dorm, one could create a modern day Limited with all those sleeping accommodations!

Amfleets on another evening.  I still have some work to do yet tonight.  Enjoy!

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Hi @VistaDomeScott -- that is a nice looking consist.  I will kick myself for missing the 2nd Amfleet run (and some Phase 3s) until Scott decides to do Amfleet IIs or a 3rd run of these.

I'm also still a little sour about the loss of the Amtrak Heritage cars on the Southern Crescent.  No knock on Matt D., but I wish they could have found a way.  Even just the diners or just the 52-seat coaches would have been good.  After getting the Phase 3 slumbercoaches, I covet additional GGD Phase 3.

I’m thinking maybe see if Scott will run correct  Amtrak heritage cars based on tooling from sets he has already done. And do them with amfleet II’s

crescent: Diner, 52 seat budd coach, also the 85’ baggage car with the roll up door in the middle, these were budd coaches once upon a time.

Capitol Limited: 16-4 budd sleeper, baggage/ dorm??? (I think Amtrak got these)

Budd 10-6 sleeper:  (these came from UP, SP, SF, and I think Seaboard)

Seaboard silver meteor: pullman sun lounge de-skirted

santa fe: heritage baggage car, pleasure dome

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Ted, it's Ross Roadbed from Ross Switches.  They make them specifically for Atlas and GarGraves sectional  track.  They come unpainted and I spray painted them with stone paint.

That is the ticket'.. I use that stone paint for many items.  Great product.  It really looks very good on the road bed.. Different and interesting.  Enjoy your GGD Amtrak cars.  You have a very nice fleet going on there...

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