Have any double-ended diesels been done?

Strangely enough, the English Electric company's Deltic diesels were once planned for export sales, but that didn't happen. I don't think they would have made it in N. America anyway, but an O scale model (there's a 1:43 2-rail Heljan version) would be an eye-catcher.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/w...verside_-_Deltic.JPG

Nice kitbash Phil.

Having seen a picture of the CNJ model as a kid, and disliking my Marx #21 A-A pair for overhanging O-27 curves, l took a tin snips, combined the two units and had a double-cabbed diesel. Were there ANY other U S. double-cabs than CNJ's?  The Rock Island AB-6 is the odd-ball diesel l might spring for.

Sure is a nice kitbash.  Phil was able to accomplish what I tried and failed to do.  I only saw the CNJ double ended diesel once, sitting in the yard by the CNJ terminal in Jersey City.  Living next to the CNJ main line I watched and watched for that loco running through, never happened.  Saw one later on but it was a pile of rust.    

Not quite as nice as Phils - I found this picture in my uncles stuff - its his workbench - I suspect his work.

I didn't find this train in his collection - but I did find the remains of the cabs that were cutoff. They were assembled into a stubby, short B-Unit - same black paint.

Looks good !Love the challenge of kitbashing something and making something cool that few people have!

EMD made some double-ended cab units that looked something like their F units; they were lower-slung than real F's or E's. The Danes had some, the Belgians had some, the Norwegians had some, the Spaniards had some, and I think (but I'm not sure) that the Hungarians and the Yugoslavs used them, too.

i think one of the ex-Danish ones got painted up in pseudo Empire Builder colors for a European TV show supposedly set in the USA.

Of course I'm talking about the big stuff, not model trains.

Mister_Lee posted:

EMD made some double-ended cab units that looked something like their F units; they were lower-slung than real F's or E's. The Danes had some, the Belgians had some, the Norwegians had some, the Spaniards had some, and I think (but I'm not sure) that the Hungarians and the Yugoslavs used them, too.

 

i think one of the ex-Danish ones got painted up in pseudo Empire Builder colors for a European TV show supposedly set in the USA.

 

Of course I'm talking about the big stuff, not model trains.

EMD did not "make" any of those units, as all those were built by EMD Associate "licensed" to build General Motors Locomotives in various foreign countries.

This is out in left field but Lionel's New Haven EP5 on the cover of the 1956 Accessory Catalog comprises two F3 bodies / shells spliced together. They are not cut in half. The cuts follow the air vents and preserve details on the sides.

Hot Water posted:

Mister_Lee posted:

EMD made some double-ended cab units that looked something like their F units; they were lower-slung than real F's or E's. The Danes had some, the Belgians had some, the Norwegians had some, the Spaniards had some, and I think (but I'm not sure) that the Hungarians and the Yugoslavs used them, too.

 

i think one of the ex-Danish ones got painted up in pseudo Empire Builder colors for a European TV show supposedly set in the USA.

 

Of course I'm talking about the big stuff, not model trains.

EMD did not "make" any of those units, as all those were built by EMD Associate "licensed" to build General Motors Locomotives in various foreign countries.

Here's the movie-painted license-built EMD. I think the engine builders were Nohab-Polar.

http://www.ttnut.com/resources/image/4617

Mike CT posted:

Weaver had done the Milwaukee Little Joe electric.   Picture from the internet.   Built for the Russians, to 5 ft. gauge, eventually GE sold them to the Milwaukee Road.  (Second time around, early 20th century, the Russian Revolution just about put Baldwin out of business, with their order of decapods un-delivered.)  Here is the history .

 

So how did we ever start calling the model EP-5s "Little Joe"?

The MR Russian seems to be the real Little Joe - but I see this name attached to the Lionel EP-5 models for some reason.

The Great Northern rebuilt a wrecked electric box cab after a wreck with new F-unit style cabs. 

Roving Sign posted:

Mike CT posted:

Weaver had done the Milwaukee Little Joe electric.   Picture from the internet.   Built for the Russians, to 5 ft. gauge, eventually GE sold them to the Milwaukee Road.  (Second time around, early 20th century, the Russian Revolution just about put Baldwin out of business, with their order of decapods un-delivered.)  Here is the history .

 

So how did we ever start calling the model EP-5s "Little Joe"?

The MR Russian seems to be the real Little Joe - but I see this name attached to the Lionel EP-5 models for some reason.

Lionel/MPC started calling the EP-5 "Little Joe's" when they re-released them back in the 1980's.

On the new Haven, the EP-5's were referred to as "Jets" because of the sound made by their blowers.

Rusty

Mike CT posted:

Roving Sign posted:

Mike CT posted:

Weaver had done the Milwaukee Little Joe electric.   Picture from the internet.   Built for the Russians, to 5 ft. gauge, eventually GE sold them to the Milwaukee Road.  (Second time around, early 20th century, the Russian Revolution just about put Baldwin out of business, with their order of decapods un-delivered.)  Here is the history .

 

So how did we ever start calling the model EP-5s "Little Joe"?

The MR Russian seems to be the real Little Joe - but I see this name attached to the Lionel EP-5 models for some reason.

Joe Stalin, was the Russian leader at the time.  Article linked seems to indicate that the "Little Joe" stuck with the units.

I get the name relation to the Russian units - but they aren't EP-5s are they? - Looks like a lot more wheels - and stuff.

Looking at the Tandem Assoc page - it says Lionel "erroneously" called their EP-5 models "Little Joe"

I think the Pennsy unit might even say "Little Joe" on the box or catalog.

http://www.tandem-associates.c.../lionelelectrics.htm

Had EMD produced a double ended F-unit, this is what it might have looked like:

Rusty

Mike CT posted:

(Electric), Weaver had done the Milwaukee Little Joe electric.   Picture from the internet.   Built for the Russians, to 5 ft. gauge, eventually GE sold some of them to the Milwaukee Road.  (Second time around, early 20th century, the Russian Revolution just about put Baldwin out of business, with their order of decapods un-delivered.)  Here is the history . 

Lots of model train manufacturers have done the dual-headed electric models, I thought we were talking about diesels?

gunrunnerjohn posted:

Mike CT posted:

(Electric), Weaver had done the Milwaukee Little Joe electric.   Picture from the internet.   Built for the Russians, to 5 ft. gauge, eventually GE sold some of them to the Milwaukee Road.  (Second time around, early 20th century, the Russian Revolution just about put Baldwin out of business, with their order of decapods un-delivered.)  Here is the history . 

Lots of model train manufacturers have done the dual-headed electric models, I thought we were talking about diesels?

Here ya go...

Under construction at the EMD London, Ontario facility.  I believe the prototype Class 66 was built at LaGrange, Il.

Rusty

Mike CT posted:

gunrunnerjohn posted:

Mike CT posted:

(Electric), Weaver had done the Milwaukee Little Joe electric.   Picture from the internet.   Built for the Russians, to 5 ft. gauge, eventually GE sold some of them to the Milwaukee Road.  (Second time around, early 20th century, the Russian Revolution just about put Baldwin out of business, with their order of decapods un-delivered.)  Here is the history . 

Lots of model train manufacturers have done the dual-headed electric models, I thought we were talking about diesels?

Hope I didn't ruin your day.  Note the first word. (Electric).   And what is your contribution?? 

Except the original poster's TITLE is, " HAVE ANY DOUBLE-ENDED DIESELS BEEN DONE?"

Mike CT posted:

gunrunnerjohn posted:

Mike CT posted:

(Electric), Weaver had done the Milwaukee Little Joe electric.   Picture from the internet.   Built for the Russians, to 5 ft. gauge, eventually GE sold some of them to the Milwaukee Road.  (Second time around, early 20th century, the Russian Revolution just about put Baldwin out of business, with their order of decapods un-delivered.)  Here is the history . 

Lots of model train manufacturers have done the dual-headed electric models, I thought we were talking about diesels?

Hope I didn't ruin your day.  Note the first word. (Electric).   And what is your contribution?? 

My contribution was I know the difference between a diesel and an electric.   I was just having a little fun, lighten up.  Why does everyone take themselves so seriously nowadays?

gunrunnerjohn posted:

 

...  Why does everyone take themselves so seriously nowadays?  

I never have and I'm too old to start now. Not sure I could manage without a little humor each day. Although the humor is sometimes much harder to detect in the written words in a post.

Much better when delivered in person. 

Didn't Clyde- Engineering -in Australia build double ended diesels under license by EMD ?

prrhorseshoecurve posted:

Didn't EMD build double ended diesels under license by Clyde- Engineering -in Australia?

From Wikipedia. Clyde Engineering was appointed the Australian licensee for Electro-Motive Diesel products, in 1950.

Wow...l did not know in my preteen years when l hacked Marx #21's into a double ended diesel, and painted it a goofy medium blue, that it had a prototype roadkilling kangaroos far, far away.

prrhorseshoecurve posted:

Didn't EMD build double ended diesels under license by Clyde- Engineering -in Australia?