Help determining what locomotive this is? Lionel or not, 700E or 773 or 785 or just cannibalized parts?

That’s a cobbled together pile of parts from a variety of engines,……the back of the chassis has been lopped off to accept whatever that abomination of a motor is, …..it looks like somebody hacked on a Pulmor from a diesel to make a motor fit………if the gear box and the drivers are good, and it’s all in quarter, it’d make a very interesting rescue with a can motor swap,…..it’s salvageable, but borderline….

Pat

Any clue about the shell? I've not seen one with what seems to be plastic piping on it.

Yeah, a can motor swap. It's pre-butchered anyway. Looks like a good bit of the Hudson goodness is still there.

@Warthog_Driver posted:

Any clue about the shell? I've not seen one with what seems to be plastic piping on it.

It looks cobbled too, ….might be a 773 service shell, or who knows, the stack is wrong, and it’s got some add on pieces…….as I mentioned, it might be a fun project to gather parts here & there, then make a locomotive out if it,….

Pat

@D500 posted:

... a can motor swap... Looks like a good bit of the Hudson goodness is still there.

how do you get a can motor in a 700E?

@woodsyT posted:

how do you get a can motor in a 700E?

Like this:

Pat

@harmonyards posted:

Like this:

Pat

yeah, yeah... but how can I  do it? that's the question I should've asked.

I spent some time searching for swap kits or brackets and I am finding zilch with the exception of a Frank Timko who had a website that is down.

@woodsyT posted:

yeah, yeah... but how can I  do it? that's the question I should've asked.

I spent some time searching for swap kits or brackets and I am finding zilch with the exception of a Frank Timko who had a website that is down.

Buy a bunch of machines, & get busy, ….all you need is a small mill, small lathe, a variety of hand tools, …..very doable……or get the Timko special and roll on, ….😉

Pat

If you don't have all the metal working tools you can mount the motor with adhesive caulk.  You will need to make sure the motor shaft is level with the gear box shaft.  But with patience and a little time you can make any adjustments with a file and dremel tool if needed.  You can shim up the motor with styrene if you need to raise of level it.  You can use shaft couplers used in RC cars to connect the two shafts.  Those even come with different diameters on each end.  I'd suggest a flywheel on the motor.

I've mounted many motors using the caulk method and they are still going strong after twenty years.

I dont see any cracking or other rot.   I agree with the can motor. Its not original , not a big money collector Item, but is a good looking runner

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