Someone on one of the Facebook forums is asking who made this. Only marking is a made in Germany on the pilot. Any ideas?
Steve
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Steve,
It looks a bit like Issmayer. Is the completely black livery original?
Regards
Fred
The black is original. The consensus on Facebook is Bub. Came with buffers or a US pilot.
Steve
Could be an Issmayer ( I am no expert on them tho) but for some silly reason I cannot back up with anything but gut, Adolph Schuhmann comes to mind , there is little info out there but a lot of his locos, came with that extended lower sides ... Bub kinda did it on a few models , but nothing like your example that I have seen Steve...
OHHHHKAAYYYY Searching using my best google-foo I have come up with a match I think?
Providing this ebay seller knows what hes got , it IS a Bub 
(you learn something new every day , maybe? lol)
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Bub-KB...d:g:cdoAAOSw~NdcuucV
I would say the black on yours is someones handywork ? Unless Bub was clearing out some Stealth Versions 
Jim,
It looks like a picture I made and not from a book (I recognize my dining table 
See here https://ogrforum.com/...40#74918006365790740
Regards
Fred
The picture on page 139 of the Issmayer book shows this same loco with a red outlined tender. Sorry for the theft. I took the easy way out.
Clockwork? Sounds Mickey Mouse to me.
Jim O'C posted:I believe the Issmayer book states that Bub was building clockwork locomotives for them. Here is a similar JAJ loco from that book.
And THIS is the joy of identifying many German Clockworks , Manufacturers copied, borrowed, commissioned from each other , and often produced "generics" and many different versions of the same loco , and the two world wars which saw many factories damaged and records lost/thrown out/burnt/destroyed.
Then you have the super productive post war "collective " years where trademarks were forgone in many cases to be replaced by " Made in U.S. Zone " and the same loco/wagons could be made by different manufacturers made it even more confusing ... Arne and Daniel do an amazing job of sorting these out for us plebs
Tis also why I had that Adolph Schuhmann gut feeling cos he produced locos like this ...
Similar also to the bub AND the Issmayer
