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New member here! I've made the switch from years of HO and N as a kid to O Gauge! I've bought some used MTH Protosound 2 locomotives from a local collector thinning his collection and I'm having a few issues I know you can help me with! 

Let's start with the easier issue: MTH F3 ABA Jersey Central Set. Model number 20-2483-1. I've only tried to operate the A unit as I don't have room to try the others. It's works fine however there is no smoke switch/pot on the underside of the locomotive where the manual said it should be. I've taken off the shell but could not find it! Any ideas how I turn off the smoke?


The second locomotive is a little more complicated. It's a 0-6-0 yard switcher. When I put this locomotive on the track and apply power using a Z1000 and DCS Remote Commander, nothing happens. After doing research it seems that it MIGHT be the battery (MTH 9V like battery) which I replaced and now it's charging using the MTH charger. I took it off the charger after a few hours but still nothing except a single "click" from the tender. I'm going to let it charge over night and see what happens. If it's not the battery, any idea what it could be? 

 

UPDATE - Locomotive still does not run after being charged all night.



Thanks!

J

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Are you sure no switch on F-3.  Follow the Pink and blue wire from the 12 pin connector on the board.  Has to be a switch unless it was removed.

The 0-6-0 needs to be factory reset with full system.  DCS remote only recognizes factory reset engines.  Test it conventionally to make sure it works.  G

Jon,

there is no smoke switch/pot on the underside of the locomotive where the manual said it should be.

It's there. Look closer.

I've taken off the shell

Completely unnecessary for this situation and can cause issues.

When I put this locomotive on the track and apply power using a Z1000 and DCS Remote Commander, nothing happens

Did you press the Startup button and, when you did so, did the green light flash on the receiver? If so, the engine needs to be Factory Reset. To do this for this engine, you need someone with a full DCS TIU and DCS Remote. Also, after they do the Factory Reset, theymust not addd the engine back into their DCS Remote.


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GGG posted:

Are you sure no switch on F-3.  Follow the Pink and blue wire from the 12 pin connector on the board.  Has to be a switch unless it was removed.

The 0-6-0 needs to be factory reset with full system.  DCS remote only recognizes factory reset engines.  Test it conventionally to make sure it works.  G

Barry Broskowitz posted:

Jon,

there is no smoke switch/pot on the underside of the locomotive where the manual said it should be.

It's there. Look closer.

I've taken off the shell

Completely unnecessary for this situation and can cause issues.

When I put this locomotive on the track and apply power using a Z1000 and DCS Remote Commander, nothing happens

Did you press the Startup button and, when you did so, did the green light flash on the receiver? If so, the engine needs to be Factory Reset. To do this for this engine, you need someone with a full DCS TIU and DCS Remote. Also, after they do the Factory Reset, theymust not addd the engine back into their DCS Remote.


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Barry and GGG,

I have not followed a wire but I will tell you the pots are not where to manual says they should be. I am work not but I will take photos and give model numbers as soon as i get home.

 

As far as the switcher goes. I did run it conventional at my local store. It would start up but not move. I only have the Remote Commander for now. Sound like it still needs a reset? I will try to find someone with a full DCS remote to factory reset it for me. 

Alright. Here are some photos I promised. Attached are photos of the underside of the F3 with no smoke or volume pot along with a shot of the box with model number.

 

I've also attached a photo of the steamers model number. I changed the battery to a new battery and charged it over night. Won't start up. No movement.

 
I think I'm just going to bring all the locomotives I purchased to our local MTH repair gentleman and have him check everything out. I also purchased a PS1 Camelback that needs to be converted to PS3!
 
 
 
 

 

 

 

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Looks like you're showing us the bottom of the trailing a of the A-B-A set, there is no speaker in that one.  How about looking at the other A-Unit?

The 0-6-0 is a 5V unit.  Since it started the audio but didn't move, I'd change the battery first, it's a 2001 locomotive.  If it still has the old white battery, it's doubtless dead.  With a dead battery, you can't run conventional, as soon as you press the direction button, the sound will cut out, sound familiar?  If you changed the battery and still tried to charge it with no results, the board is likely the problem.

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Here's an easy battery test.... Fire up the engine (it doesn't need to move) and then cut the track power, Sounds should continue on for at least 6 or 7 seconds.... If not the battery needs replacing... This is a must because if you need the engine in the reset state you can't get there with a dead battery and have it stick.  This would apply to both engines.

Jongrill posted:

Alright. Here are some photos I promised. Attached are photos of the underside of the F3 with no smoke or volume pot along with a shot of the box with model number.

I've also attached a photo of the steamers model number. I changed the battery to a new battery and charged it over night. Won't start up. No movement.

I think I'm just going to bring all the locomotives I purchased to our local MTH repair gentleman and have him check everything out. I also purchased a PS1 Camelback that needs to be converted to PS3!
 
 

 Whoops. I attached the wrong photo. Leading A photo attached! Again. Again, no pots or switches.

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Gregg posted:

Here's an easy battery test.... Fire up the engine (it doesn't need to move) and then cut the track power, Sounds should continue on for at least 6 or 7 seconds.... If not the battery needs replacing... This is a must because if you need the engine in the reset state you can't get there with a dead battery and have it stick.  This would apply to both engines.

I replaced the old white battery with a brand new green one I just bought. Wont even start up. Off to the shop it goes!

 

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