Hiawatha Hudson

I will try and add a video.It did not play all the way . I don't know why.
I want to give a big thanks to Midge & Jon at MTH they were a big help. !!

Steve - Nice to see she's running but - judging by the squeaks I hear on your video - me thinks she needs to be lubricated.    

@PH1975 posted:

Steve - Nice to see she's running but - judging by the squeaks I hear on your video - me thinks she needs to be lubricated.    

Yes I'm getting there. That was the test run ..

Steve- great repair! I see you DO like Hiawathas! JohnA

@John A posted:

Steve- great repair! I see you DO like Hiawathas! JohnA

Yes I love the color combination. I think it brightens a layout. This is the first time I have rebuilt a more modern engine.
I did oil it so its quiet now

Steve (SERG),

Great job but you should use the correct terminology when referring to "Milwaukee's" 4-6-4  HIAWATHA locomotives.  The Milwaukee Road actually "designed" the first 4-6-4 locomotive as the intended replacement for its aging 4-4-4 HIAWATHA "Atlantic" locomotives.  On the plans The Milwaukee Road called their new HIAWATHA 4-6-4 wheel arrangement design a "Baltic".  Unfortunately, Milwaukee's lack of funds prevented their immediate construction so credit for "building" the first 4-6-4 locomotive goes to NYC, which called their 4-6-4 design a "Hudson".  Nevertheless, when they finally rolled out of The Milwaukee Road's Shops, Milwaukee called their 4-6-4 HIAWATHA locomotives "Baltics" not Hudsons.

Bob Nelson

@navy.seal posted:

Steve (SERG),

Great job but you should use the correct terminology when referring to "Milwaukee's" 4-6-4  (Class F-7) HIAWATHA locomotives.  The Milwaukee Road actually "designed" the first 4-6-4 locomotive as the intended replacement for its aging 4-4-4 (Correct would be 4-4-2) HIAWATHA "Atlantic" locomotives.  On the plans The Milwaukee Road called their new HIAWATHA 4-6-4 wheel arrangement design a "Baltic".  Unfortunately, Milwaukee's lack of funds prevented their immediate construction so credit for "building" the first 4-6-4 locomotive goes to NYC, which called their 4-6-4 design a "Hudson".  Nevertheless, when they finally rolled out of The Milwaukee Road's Shops, (Pretty sure these were built by Alco) Milwaukee called their 4-6-4 HIAWATHA locomotives "Baltics" not Hudsons.

Charlie

@Charlie posted:

Charlie

Charlie,

You are absolutely correct!

Bob Nelson

Can you guys advise which Milwaukee drawings include "Baltic" (I've been looking but cannot find any) ?

@bob3 posted:

Can you guys advise which Milwaukee drawings include "Baltic" (I've been looking but cannot find any) ?

Unfortunately, I can't tell you which drawings by The Milwaukee Road's Chief Mechanical Engineer C. H. Bilty included the name Baltic but check out the info at this site:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwaukee_Road_class_F6

Note that the drawings were made in 1925 but the Baltics weren't delivered until 1929-30.   I believe the NYC's Hudsons were first delivered in 1927.

Bob Nelson

@Sergpride posted:

I have purchased a Hudson MTH  # 30-1127-1  with disintegrating wheels . I could not find gray replacement wheels . MTH does not have  exact drive block { wheel assembly) for this unit.
They do sell a close replacement  # DF-1200024 with black spoke wheels.The ONLY difference  is the rear truck assembly is missing a riser on the bottom side which does not affect operation.
Heres my photos . It runs great

Hi. thank you for advice.

I tried to buy from MTH this drive block, they don't have it.

Where else I can buy it?

Thank you.

As stated in the other threads, it's not available.  You were offered an alternative drive block possibility that could be used and should be still available, I doubt that situation is going to change by keeping asking the same question.

I really like the Milwaukee 4-6-4. I have the Weaver brass model and it looks as good as it runs!

Rolland

Steve, I just got a PS1 Railking Hiawatha with the same zinc rot problem on the wheels. How hard was it to change out the chassis? Did you have to modify the new chassis in anyway to make it fit?

I really didn't have any problems. Just make sure you maybe take a few pictures for memory.
I did no modifications. I think  I had to leave something off something with the trailing wheels.

You need one to fill the wider gauge tracks