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It is official, I have it baaaddd!  Today I took delivery of my 8th full scale NYC Hudson.  If you count the separate sale PT tender from Lionel it is 8 1/2!  Today's arrival is an MTH J-1e with PT tender equipped with proto 2.  It looks great and runs fantastic.  And oh that whistle!!!  There is really no reason why I should have this many and this is a mania is a fairly recent phenomenon in my overall train collecting pursuits.  However, I find that I just can resist them.  I have them from Lionel, Williams (brass), MTH and K-Line.  No one is my favorite unless you count the one I am running at the time.

 

Rolland

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You would have passed muster with the late Pat Neil, owner of Collectible Trains &Toys in Dallas.  One of the first questions he asked me as a first time visitor to gauge how deep I was into the hobby (or, perhaps, how deep my pockets were) was, "How many Hudsons do you own?"

 

Pat's story revisited:

 

http://www.dallasnews.com/obit...bucket-list-wish.ece

 

 

 

 

What, me worry?

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Growing up in the 70s and 80s, it seemed like all you ever read about in train magazines and books was NYC and the Pennsy. I got so sick of either of them that only recently have I developed any appreciation for either (as coverage in the magazines has shifted to other places since then).

I was never that big a NYC fan, but I must admit I totally get the appeal of the Hudsons. I was sad to stop in Elkhart, ID on the Amtrak "Capitol Limited" and be able to catch a glimpse of one of the few remaining NYC steam locomotives, Mohawk 3001. I couldn't get off the train so a window view from about 200 yards was as good as it got. Would have loved to have been able to get off the train and look around.

I, too, would love to see a newly-made Hudson zooming along the 'water level route,' though that's extremely unlikely.

My layout wouldn't allow any NYC power at all, but I like seeing good scale models of the classic Hudsons...

Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by superwarp1:

Love that weathering job. 

 

Thanks.

 

3rdrail J3?

 

Yes, J3a "Super Hudson" with Worthington Feedwater system, roller bearing rods,  "Selkirk Front-end", and PT tender.

 

I missed out on this engine.  Hoping to see one on the buy/sell board one of these days.

Originally Posted by superwarp1:

3rdrail J3?

 

Yes, J3a "Super Hudson" with Worthington Feedwater system, roller bearing rods,  "Selkirk Front-end", and PT tender.

 

I missed out on this engine.  Hoping to see one on the buy/sell board one of these days.

Gary, FYI I am restoring one right now. May be a while but I intend to sell or trade it.

Only 8? 

 

For what it's worth, I would still like a proper representation of the Lima-built ex-B&A J-2 class (they had 75" drivers instead of 79") after they were moved to the NYC proper, given 12-wheel tenders (from some J-1's and J-3's that had been changed to PT tenders) and also given the J-3-style sandboxes, replacing the square B&A sandboxes.

 

Nobody cares but me, but there it is. I'd buy it.

 

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Funny that the big square B&A sand dome looks very good on the B&A Berkshire, but just appears so jarring on a NYC/B&A Hudson.

Originally Posted by Norton:
Originally Posted by superwarp1:

3rdrail J3?

 

Yes, J3a "Super Hudson" with Worthington Feedwater system, roller bearing rods,  "Selkirk Front-end", and PT tender.

 

I missed out on this engine.  Hoping to see one on the buy/sell board one of these days.

Gary, FYI I am restoring one right now. May be a while but I intend to sell or trade it.

Do tell Norton, what kind or restoration is required?  Mechanical, cosmetic, or electronic?

Originally Posted by D500:

Only 8? 

 

For what it's worth, I would still like a proper representation of the Lima-built ex-B&A J-2 class (they had 75" drivers instead of 79") after they were moved to the NYC proper, given 12-wheel tenders (from some J-1's and J-3's that had been changed to PT tenders) and also given the J-3-style sandboxes, replacing the square B&A sandboxes.

 

Nobody cares but me, but there it is. I'd buy it.

 

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Funny that the big square B&A sand dome looks very good on the B&A Berkshire, but just appears so jarring on a NYC/B&A Hudson.

Dave_C and I would love to see a correct B&A Hudson.  Short tender with the square sand dome.

I own three Hudsons;  None NYC.  I have an MTH F-7, streamlined Milwaukee Road Hudson, an MTH E-4 streamlined C&NW Hudson and a Weaver F-6a standard Milwaukee Road Hudson.  Any of the three of them could pull the couplers out of any NYC Hudson!  They were bigger, faster and more powerful than what you guys were stuck with in the Eastern part of the U.S.!  And all three were pretty engines.

 

Paul Fischer

Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by eddie g:

If you were an P51 pilot, your an old original guy.

He wasn't, and he isn't. He rode in the rear seat of a modified P51, back in 1996. Thus his avatar is about 18 or 19 years old now.

Yeah, it was taken in 96. I have a similar recent photo of me sitting in the cockpit of a B-17 in original WW2 flight gear, I should probably replace it. With the helmet in place covering most of my head, people who know me today are surprised the photo is that old as I don't look any different now for the most part, in the face, from that angle, which is why I still use the shot.

I have, however, stick time in several various WW2 planes from back when I still lived in Florida. T-6s really aren't that tough to wrangle, I've found, if you can find someone willing to hand over the controls of one to you.

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Well, I feel very inadequate now after reading this post.

I only have the 18005, and I don't think it has ever been run.

 

I must take my hat off to those who have the room to store multiple versions of those beauties.  I think they all look impressive, including the 700E version.

 

I do agree with P51 that they are all real good copies/models of the real one.

I would have no interest in owning the "real" one.

I love my 3rd Rail CB&Q #3007 Hudson.  

 

The following CB&Q prototype Hudsons are on display at

#3007 - Illinois Railway Museum

#3003 - Galesburg RR Museum & Amtrak Station (IL)

#3006 - Burlington IA CB&Q / Amtrak Station

#300? - Ottumwa IA CB&Q / Amtrak Station

#4000 - LaCrosse WI Park (this is the un-shrouded Aeolus streamlined Hudson)

 

My understanding is that 5 Canadian Pacific Hudsons have also survived.   

Originally Posted by CBQ_Bill:

I love my 3rd Rail CB&Q #3007 Hudson.  

  

I have their rendition of #4000 and would probably be tempted by the shrouded Aeolus if one came along.  By far, it's my favorite runner

 

All the same, I'm not confined to CB&Q when it comes to Hudsons

 

C&O Yellow Belly

NYC Commodore Vanderbuilt

PWC 773

plus a couple of PW nondescript 4-6-4's

 

Now that you mention it, I have more 4-6-4's than any other wheel arrangement.

 

Bruce

 

 

That is one engine that the USA needs to rebuild from scratch, the NYC J1e Hudson.  If the Brits can do it, so can we.  Problem is we can never seem to get enough folks on the same page to accomplish such a feat.  Hudsons are near the top of my list of engines I love, only eclipised by anything the PRR ran, espicaly K4 Pacifics and M1a Mountains.  If I had a time machine, a trip back to see the K4 on the Broadway and the Hudson on the 20th Century race each other would be top of my list!   

Originally Posted by artfull dodger:

That is one engine that the USA needs to rebuild from scratch, the NYC J1e Hudson.  If the Brits can do it, so can we.

 

Well to be accurate, the "Brits" can, and did, do it because they have many, many, many more people with money, interested in their own rail history than here in the U.S., in order to fund such a venture. Plus, they are not such a litigious society as ours, which allows their restored/rebuilt/new steam locomotives to operate all over their main lines.

  

 Problem is we can never seem to get enough folks on the same page to accomplish such a feat.  Hudsons are near the top of my list of engines I love, only eclipised by anything the PRR ran, espicaly K4 Pacifics and M1a Mountains.  If I had a time machine, a trip back to see the K4 on the Broadway and the Hudson on the 20th Century race each other would be top of my list!   

 

Originally Posted by aussteve:

I would have no interest in owning the "real" one.

Please tell me that you don't mean you wouldn't want a real, original, 1:1 scale steam powered Hudson! Man, who wouldn't want one?

Imagine having one squirrelled away in a shed somewhere. You'd be a God among train fans!

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