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My Dad was a manager at what was one of the oldest and largest Ford dealers in the country. When I was growing up, I spent a lot of time crawling around the old, original showroom and service area and gained an appreciation for the history of the company and that script logo in the blue oval. Oh, and the Mustang and I are the same age! So now, as I'm a glutton for punishment, I've decided I want my train collection to include some (and maybe all) of the Ford cars I can find. I've already purchased a few things but I still have a ways to go. If I'm going to see this to completion. I think I'm looking at all these items (note this list includes only cars/engines carrying the Ford road name (flats carrying ford cars or trailers i.e. NYC Flat with Mustangs, are not included). My question is, as this has been compiled from Google and eBay searches, what's missing from this list?

Lionel

7444 - Ford Tank Car (White with blue logo/lettering)

9042 - Motorcraft Autolite Spark Plugs Boxcar

11814 - Ford limited Edition Set (Steam/Tender, DD Box Car, Tank Car, Flat w/Trailer, Caboose)

     16137 – Ford Tank Car

     16256 - Ford DD Box Car

     16557 - Ford Square Window Caboose

     16916 - Ford Flat w/Trailer

     16985 - Ford Flat Car with 2 Ford Panel Trucks

17533 - Ford Trailer Train Flat Car With Auto Frames

21953 - Ford Mustang Set (GP-7, Flat w/2 Classic Mustangs, Flat w/2 Modern Mustangs, Porthole Caboose)

22394 - 2-Bay Covered Hopper

22426 - Ford Gondola With Coils K-Line by L

22392 - Ford Tractor Boxcar K-Line by L

22393 – Ford Double Plug Door Boxcar K-Line by L

22538 - Motorcraft Modern Aluminum Tank Car K-Line by L

22643 - Motorcraft MP-15 Diesel K-Line by L

22644 - Motorcraft Aluminum Tank Car  K-Line by L

22646 - Ford Speeder K-Line by L 

Lionel TTOS Set

     52029 TTOS Ford Single Dome Tank Car

     52030 TTOS Ford Gondola

     52031 TTOS Ford Hopper

 

K-Line

K622-6001A - Classic Ribbed Hopper (4 road numbers 1458-1461)

K632-6001 - Classic Tank Car

K651-6001 - Ford Classic Gondola

K691-6001 - Ford Flat w/2 T-Bird Convertibles

K691-6003 - Ford Flat Car with 2 F-150s (Road number FRDX 691)

K1504 -  Ford Plymouth Switcher Set (Plymouth engine, 6 short gons)

K-6275A Ford Ore Car 4-pack, (4 road numbers)

K229103 - Ford New Holland MP-15 loco

K2298-12007 - Ford MP-15 MP-15 loco

K619106 – Ford New Holland Caboose

K649106 - Ford New Holland Boxcar

 

Weaver

252813140693 – Ford V8 Open Hopper

 

So, what did I miss?

Thanks in advance for any input!

Redrockbill

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There are 2 different Plymouth Switcher Ford sets...

Both have 6 gondolas - 4 black, 2 blue

One has a switcher that is black (K-line 1504)

One has a switcher that is Yellow and Orange (lionel 6-22334)... aka loco #2

..I think I have a new one of the Lionel sets that I never got around to opening!  Interested?

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The Ford using Plymouth makes my head hurt, lol. Fun, but I doubt that happened. Since your into Ford, you might want to consider ol' Henry once owned DT&I and electrified it. He also Had a large chunck if not controlling interest in the Virginian. The goal was electrification from the port to Detroit to bypass the raw material shipping done by boat. You've got to believe his buddy Edison had a lot of influence on him. He could never secure the line that owned the bridge between the two lines though.(forget which). Anyhow, even after Ford sold off DT&I, a strong relationship remained. All my memories of DT&I yards and lines are full of Fords on carriers. For projects.... These with the Ford grill are 125t (G.E.) One had been reflagged and survives on display (Wisconsin?) Gramps had two 44t from an unsactioned evening run of 44t that looked similer to this photoshopped pic.. One was blue, one was black. I guess the were either the best representation of the later paint of the 125t or Ford used another type of center cab later. ...I'll have to try post again...no attachment tool showing.

 

Some of these arches are still standing along cetain stretches; the orignal design is quite ornate at the footings 

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I just stumbled on this one recently.

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125t (one was actually either 135t, maybe 165-175t...?...Groggy tired this a.m.)

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P-shopped 44t, the originals Gramp's had were a drk  blue & a black one, no logo ring. If you land one some day, (doubt many were done; but 6+ to ? ) I'd love a picture. 

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- Nothing new here, but the real MP-15 was  EMD, of course, and EMD was a division of General Motors. That sort of thing always hits me as a disconnect.

- The Plymouth switcher is funny for an almost similar reason; the Plymouth automobile was the entry-level Chrysler product, down with Ford and Chevy. Now, a Plymouth locomotive has nothing to do with a Plymouth automobile, and was made by a totally unconnected company. But seeing that "Plymouth" above with the "Ford" logo on it is indeed chuckle-worthy.

None of which has much if anything to do with your "Ford" RR collection, I am sure. But - Lionel offered a Mopar set years ago; not a great set, but it appealed to me for similar reasons that the Ford stuff does you. I kind of wanted one as a curiosity, but never bought one; that GM switch engine at the head end of a Mopar set was a disconnect that I couldn't get past. Had it been an Alco I could have handled it - especially since Walter Chrysler was a RR man before an automobile man, and used to manage the production at Alco's Pittsburgh Works.

A collector's journey is a strange trip, dude.

The Plymouth truck (& later a locomotive co). made a Plymouth car before Chrysler. Chrysler was ready for legal action, but found they had to buy the name being beat out by many years.  Because Plymouth locos were pretty much built to order, you could find a Chrysler motor in a few , but they were not the most common. I don't know if they ever used any Ford or GM motors in builds though..

My last brand new Ford was an 86 longbed Ranger, 2.3 F.Inj. (pinto block) 5 spd. manual. I sold it at about 300,000 and it was sold again at 475,000, still running smooth with good compression, 3rd timing belt, but nothing else major.  Half its life was work, hauling heavy scrap loads,(with custom springs, it could haul more than it weighed...carefully) the rest was travel for fun. (i used to avrg. 180 miles a day each year. ...the key is oil changes UNDER 2,000 miles, 2500 max).

  I've got to find you pictures of the dealer nearest the Ford World Headquarters in Dearborn.  They even have a cool garage themed restaurant in front of the lot.

  Riding in new cars is painful due to my injury. I'm like a water ballon or jello bowl and jiggling hurts bad.  But about a month ago an old pal came to visit and I couldn't resist a ride in his new toy (below).  No speeding around, but I finally got to ride in a car again that doesn't hurt me(including brand new Lincolns, Caddies, & Benz). It just confirmed for me new is NOT better.(carb. 302 and getting 20+mpg... impressive for 68 Galaxy Boat-hundred imo.

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How is the door window gutter trim doin' Lou? Me and a senior toolmaker at an outside shop made the giant machine equipt with the many pnumatic clamps and drills that preped the part for attachment with one press of the buttons.

  Due to another more senior engineers habit of thinking his degree meant we were all stupid, a whole wall of a building had to come down to get it to Fords. (20hx 20x30'ish in two parts).   I saw that once it was put on Hilti rollers to move it, it wasn't going to make the door by 1/2"... but ohhhh no don't listen to the home trained apprentice..he dumba. After the third attempt at common sense I just kept building it   He never said another word to me, looking at the ground when he passed for the next year I was there.   (More education, yes. Smarter? This one was not even close  

  Later, I got to drive a whole bunch of one-offs from the Ford engineering garage too. From the 1st SHO, to Lightings, and twin turbo V8 Marauder. Two early concept vehices never made, etc etc.(thanks to Carol Shelby and others handing me keys a few times)  These were not de-tuned cars for the public. Ford engineers are nuts and are only kept it check by the upper level managment and bean counters imo.  I gained my respect for those tiny rod journals the hard, but fun way

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Hi Redrockbill,

Here's a list of Ford items from Menards, highlighted by Sally's Restoration Shop!

www.menards.com/trains

Ford Scene

O Scale Building
279-4032 - Sally's Restoration Shop

Plug & Play Lighted Die-Cast
279-4205 - Plug & Play Lighted F-150 Lighted Goodyear Stake Truck w/ Tires
279-4207 - Plug & Play Lighted F-150 Lighted Menards Stake Truck
279-4211 - Plug & Play Lighted F-150 Lighted Military Flatbed w/ Jeep
279-4213 - Plug & Play Lighted F-150 Lighted Penske Box Truck
279-4215 - Plug & Play Lighted F-150 Lighted Jack Links Box Truck

Die-Cast
279-3502 - F-150 Goodyear Stake Truck w/ Tires
279-4206 - F-150 Menards Stake Truck
279-4208 - F-150 Military Stake Truck
279-4220 - F-150 Military Flatbed w/ Jeep
279-4212 - F-150 Penske Box Truck
279-4214 - F-150 Jack Links Box Truck
279-3498 - F-150 Ambulance (Battery Operated Lights)

Flatcars
279-2300 - CNW Flatcar w/ F-150 Maintenance Truck
279-2301 - BNSF Flatcar w/ F-150 Maintenance Truck
279-2640 - Santa Fe Flatcar w/ F-150 Maintenance Truck
279-2641 - Pennsylvania Flatcar w/ F-150 Maintenance Truck
279-2642 - Soo Line Flatcar w/ F-150 Maintenance Truck
279-2643 - Union Pacific Flatcar w/ F-150 Maintenance Truck
279-2644 - Wisconsin Central Flatcar w/ F-150 Maintenance Truck
279-2653 - Milwaukee Road Flatcar w/ F-150 Maintenance Truck
279-0710 - Union Pacific Flatcar w/ F-150 Menards Truck w/ Barrels & Lumber
279-7847 - Military Flatcar w/ F-150 Military Truck w/ Artillery Shells
279-3446 - ATSF Flatcar w/ Lighted F-150 Chippewa Valley Farm Supply Stake Truck
279-3433 - Chesapeake & Ohio Flatcar w/ Lighted F-150 Goodyear Stake Truck w/ Tires

Thank you,
Mark the Menards Train Guy

 

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Add to Mark's Menards list above:

Die Cast

279-4329 - Paul Menard #21 Motorcraft Quick Lane Wood Brothers NASCAR 2018 Ford Fusion

279-4329 - Paul Menard #21 FVP / Menards Wood Brothers NASCAR 2018 Ford Fusion

279-4329 - Ryan Blaney #12 Richmond Water Heaters / Menards Team Penske NASCAR 2018 Ford Fusion

I am not sure why the above have the same stock numbers printed on the package when they are different models??????

If Menards should be inspired to design and build a "Ford Dealership Building" for their "Train Stuff" line, I would suggest that they look no further than the Gilmore Automobile Museum in SW Michigan that has this beautifully restored building on their grounds:

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How is the door window gutter trim doin' Lou? Me and a senior toolmaker at an outside shop made the giant machine equipt with the many pnumatic clamps and drills that preped the part for attachment with one press of the buttons.

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Everything is still in place. It stayed fine for 29 years. Last year I pulled the car apart for paint, as after 29 years it needed a refresh. Evey piece of trim was replaced with NOS parts, which in itself was an adventure to find. You think finding rare Lionel trains is hard? Try finding NOS parts for an unpopular 30 year old FoMoCo product. The car isn't stock anymore (but looks it with the hood shut). There are way too many modifications to list here.

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I've been trying to find a 1:43 scale 87-88 Thunderbird for years, so I can put my car on my layout. Even though I model the 1947-1954 time frame I figure it could be a "future/dream car". Besides it's my interpretation of a time period, so I can do what I want.

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  The name of the restaurant I had mentioned is Ford's Garage. Turns out it's part of a small chain, one in Dearborn Mich., and about a half dozen more scattered around Florida. I have not been there yet, I just saw it recently. I don't know for sure this is the Dearborn location, but looks right...(?) Anyhow, you get the idea what to expect, eh?  An old school garage.  

If I get over there again, I plan on getting a good photo that catches the dealership behind it as well. They are both within about two miles of the World headquarters, all of which are accessable from Michigan Ave., Fair lane is nearby, Henry Ford Museum/Greenfield Village, etc. etc.

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Steel would have come from the Rouge Steel Complex. Huge.

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A fairly comprehensive list of Ford-related K-Line products can be found by going to the Legacy K-Line site and using "Ford" in the search function box.  I can't say that it is complete, but it is a great place to start.

Weaver's production archive list shows 3 different Ford runs (all custom runs):

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Assembling an O gauge Ford collection sounds like a lot of fun!

Happy Hunting!

Andy

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