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Can anyone please name the manufacturer of this o guage mode.  It runson 3 rail 24 volts track.  All three rails are insulated.  Bodies of loco and coaches are one piece aluminium casting.  One side of each coach says Wagon Restaurant the other side says des wagon-lits.Buffers are brass.There is no makers mark that I recognise .  I have taken motor out and looked at every part.  I am guessing could it be J E P?

mIKE

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That set looks like it is European in design, so three companies come to mind right away; Hornby(British), Marklin(German) and LGB(Liemann Gross Bahn, or Liemann Large scale trains, German also).

Would have to see the transformer data and plug, the item that goes into the wall.

 

I would rule out Lionel, Marx, Dorfan, and Ives, as NO chance that either of those four made that set.

 

Lee F.

hi lea transformer input is 220 volt output to controler is 24 volt ac . the plug is missing .the the 2 core flex is a type that was renderd obsolete here in the uk 40 years ago.as i am a electrician  one of the first things i did was to remove motor from loco and cover from transformer to try and find a trade mark ,nothing .the only clue i have are the words on sides of coaches which are french .          regards mike  

this is a Belgian product made by a small company named Gils. They also made a nice looking torpedo, could be American inspired though Belgian Railways had a famous stream line atlantic too. Gils was a family run small company, delivering their production to one warehouse. They weren't cheap though. They stopped in 1965.

They started in 1941. That's amazing because Belgium was occupied by the nazi's then. And certainly metal toy production was prohibited, raw material scarse anyway.

 

Kieffer

Last edited by kieffer
Originally Posted by kieffer:

this is a Belgian product made by a small company named Gils. They also made a nice looking torpedo, inspired by a famous Belgian Railways steamer, an atlantic from the thirties.

Here's a link to some photographs of the locomotive that provided the inspiration.

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/s...et-72157630319759548

 

 

And this link shows some information about the model above, which was described as an 'American train'.

 

http://www.historytoy.com/Gils...-aluminum-gush-car-w

 

 

And here is one in action. 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnSbnbiY-bI

 

 

I believe that this is a pretty rare set. 

Last edited by N.Q.D.Y.
Originally Posted by Mike Foster:

 .the only clue i have are the words on sides of coaches which are french .          regards mike  

The words Wagons Lits: that was a railway company founded by a Belgian engineer in 1883. They ran luxury sleepers. The company stopped in 2003. Wagons Lits means literally Bed Cars, sleepers as you call'em I think. Funny to have these words on an "american" toy train though.

They also ran on the Orient Express, from Ostend in Belgium all the way to Istanbul. An inspiration for quite a few espionage films and novels. I remember Wagons Lits from their catering business, selling coffee and snacks. The Germans had Mitropa, I think that went broke shortly after the Berlin wall came down. After the war it became East German. Their DDR restaurant cars were great, with waiters serving you Russian goulash called Soljanka. They were common sight in the west as they ran on the Berlin-Amsterdam connection, so as a westerner you could have some taste from the other side. That's history now.

 

Kieffer

Originally Posted by Mike Foster:

hi lea transformer input is 220 volt output to controler is 24 volt ac . the plug is missing .the the 2 core flex is a type that was renderd obsolete here in the uk 40 years ago.as i am a electrician  one of the first things i did was to remove motor from loco and cover from transformer to try and find a trade mark ,nothing .the only clue i have are the words on sides of coaches which are french .          regards mike  

The only electrical problem that I could foresee being made a number of years ago is the cycle frequency(25 hertz verse 50 hertz) of the transformer being used. Maybe you can use a Marklin or LGB 220 volt modern transformer. Two or three volts more than the recommended voltage won't hurt the older trains, like 30 volts will work ok.

 

Lee F.

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