It'd be great for Lionel to use these toolings once again

Yes please to all of the above!

All 4 are examples of what I DO want Lionel to do again.

Lionel has by far the most accurate model of the 4501, despite it being 23 years old and lacking the intricate detail on current scale locos. I can easily see Lionel modifying it for whistle steam, much like the 700E Hudson.

Speaking of which, RickO speaks for all NYC fans for the J3A to come back, and the Niagara WITHOUT the issues of the first release. It's been at least a dozen years since we saw either these designs.

1 - FWIW, I understand that the N&W 2-6-6-4 is one of the MTH/Lionel lawsuit engines (along with the Allegheny and PRR T-1), and the tooling is in limbo, unavailable or otherwise tied up. I have no idea if any of this is true or not. But it's been the word on the street from time to time.

2 - The Niagara, oh yes, with problems fixed, and please available in a "Pilot" version (I would definitely buy that one).

3 - The J3a - in the later, "Phase II" version. Most/all had PT tenders, Worthington feedwater heaters and changed running boards/tanks/reverse gear. I have 2 of the earlier Elesco/original tender versions - love them both, so, unless the actual tooling is changed to reflect their Postwar appearance and lettering style, I would probably pass and not buy it just for electronics upgrades.

And shorten that blasted J3a drawbar! And fix the headlight casting - it's wrong - too early.

Initially all the engines below were all mentioned in the MTH-Lionel lawsuit.  Not sure if any items were removed or added as the trial progressed.

1. Baby Hudson, Baby Pacific, Starter Set Hudson, Jr.
2. Scale C & O Allegheny
3. Scale Union Pacific Big Boy
4. Scale N & W Class A
5. Baby PRR K-4
6. Scale Lumber Shay
7. Scale PRR T-1
8. Scale Challenger
9. O Gauge Tinplate Hiawatha
10. Scale NYC Hudson
11. N & W Auxiliary Tender
12. UP Auxiliary Tender
13. Baby Challenger
14. Scale Dryfuss Hudson
15. Scale PRR S-2 Turbine
16. Scale PRR K-4
17. Baby 0-8-0
18. Scale Empire State Express
19. Baby Blue Comet
20. Tinplate 392E

The tooling I want to see products from are the A), 1001-3 shelled locomotives, B), 2600 series passenger cars, C), ATSF 4-6-4's, D), the 1946 version of the 726, and E), an AC version of the old 0-4-0T dockside designed by MPC, like 8600.

RickO posted:

 

I second this one

I'll second Gary's proud support of the Maine Central 470.  If your interested in big steam in Northern New England this locomotive is it!  She's a beautiful Alco Pacific, built in 1924.

I would love a Legacy J3a. Can't believe that hasn't happened yet. Soon? Seems like it would be an obvious big seller. 

Whatever happened to the 2026 style tooling?  Don't think Lionel has put out a 2-6-4 or 2-6-2 since 1995-1997 or so. It would be a nice LionChief Plus candiadate.

The C&O Yellowbelly 490 and matching cars. It would make a great Lioncheif Plus set, or even Legacy

What if they took the tooling for that boiler, used the 675/1666 steam chest, and various already-in-existence parts to make a beautiful Jr. Pacific? I have been trying to build my own version of this engine, in Southern green and gold trim (a little like my local high school's colors...)

D500 posted:

1 - FWIW, I understand that the N&W 2-6-6-4 is one of the MTH/Lionel lawsuit engines (along with the Allegheny and PRR T-1), and the tooling is in limbo, unavailable or otherwise tied up. I have no idea if any of this is true or not. But it's been the word on the street from time to time.

My repair man says that nothing on the Lionel will fit on the MTH version.

I was away from the hobby during the days of the MTH lawsuit. I have not been able to find any information that relates to specific locomotives as mentioned in this thread. Can someone catch me up on that or point me to a link that talks about it.

Will we see any of these steam locomotives again or are they still caught up in legal matters?

RickO posted:

 

 

The Niagara keeps coming up in discussions like this. I hope folks are not saying bring back the same engine but with modern electronics and fix the mechanical issues. If they bring it back they should also upgrade the detail as well. Of the three scale 3 rail Niagara's produced, Lionel's is the least detailed. The MTH model released 5 years prior is better detailed as is the 3rd Rail engine released even earlier than MTH's. You know a Legacy 4-8-4 is going to have a premium price. I hope it has the accuracy to match. So far, with few exceptions, most of the Legacy remakes are little improved over their previous non Legacy engines.

Pete

This is the Hudson that was the subject of the lawsuit between MTH and Lionel:

I have it, bought it at the October 2014 York at the MTH Tinplate Parts booth. Both the engine and tender still have the Plaintiff's Exhibit tags hanging from their drawbars.

Mike

While on the subject of resurrections, I think Lionel should also bring this one back too!

If Lionel was to invest in a newly tooled PRR T-1, they should do this one:

IT has not been done to death yet as have the Two Baldwin Demo models by MTH and no one has offered this version in Die cast O gauge.

I second the N&W Class A and N&W auxiliary tender with matching stripe for the J!