SkyHookDepot-- Hope you life never takes a bad turn. We are talking trains. Go buy them someplace else. There are many many places in this world that you can get what you want. Some of us do know and I know I would not want this plate on my table.
Again it is toy trains a hobby that you are to enjoy not to Bash a guy.
Good Luck Jason From your Friends on the Forum.
My question is this. Did you pay a deposit? If not, don't worry about it. I'm quite sure he has more on his plate than most of us could stand. Let it go, it's best to avoid any confrontation.
How do you know how much or how little he "has on his plate" any more than I know or any one else around here knows. As I predicted early on in this ridiculous saga, this guy was going the way of AM Hobbies On Line. Same MO. Don't take any customer calls, Stonewall whenever you can, put out as many misleading statements through third parties as possible and finally intimate some tragedy to bring out all the bleeding hearts on the forums. What a bunch of ****.
JMHO, as usual.
I placed an order for in-stock items on Feb 21, and there has been no action or response to either phone calls or emails since then. "Open" hours have been posted, but no response then either. When I saw the "store closing" post on the website, I sent both an email and regular mail indicating that he should cancel my order and not charge my card, and I've been watching my card as well. Fortunately, I'm not one of those who has a deposit at risk.
I know many in this forum have met Jason and think him a nice guy, and have had good business experience with him in the past. I'm sorry for him for whatever caused him to close his business - no one deserves that luck in this day and age.
However, being a nice guy does not excuse bad business practices in this case. While he attends to whatever has happened to him, he needs to post on his website or communicate directly to standing customers how he intends to close out with them, especially for those from whom he took money. Failing to answer the phone or return emails for an extended time will only foster speculation and bad feelings from those feeling jilted.
If anyone lives near his shop or has an alternate phone number, perhaps they could get better information?
I am trying to figure out if he has my item or not. Has anyone been to his store today or even recieved any word from him? This is very frustrating, I'd hate to have to go to Johnstown just to confront him. 
My question is this. Did you pay a deposit? If not, don't worry about it. I'm quite sure he has more on his plate than most of us could stand. Let it go, it's best to avoid any confrontation.
How do you know how much or how little he "has on his plate" any more than I know or any one else around here knows. As I predicted early on in this ridiculous saga, this guy was going the way of AM Hobbies On Line. Same MO. Don't take any customer calls, Stonewall whenever you can, put out as many misleading statements through third parties as possible and finally intimate some tragedy to bring out all the bleeding hearts on the forums. What a bunch of ****.
JMHO, as usual.
Kind of reminds me of the way some people were bashing Marty when Ma & Pa shut down.
"Oh poor me, I'm getting the run around or no answers from someone whos business is going under. This is unacceptable to me because I want my toy and I want it now and I have an overinflated sense of my own importance!
I don't care about them loosing everything I just want my toy and they are making things difficult for me! I should go and confront them, they're full of ****, you're a bleeding heart if you sympathize with him and don't back me up because you're all in cahoots with him and his supposed problems, blah, blah, blah, waaa, waaa, waaa..."
The guys business is going under and you think his big concern is you? He'll get to you eventually, he can't call everyone first someone is going to have to wait his turn.
It's a hobby for crying out loud and if it gets you that wound up maybe you need to reevaluate things. Is he handling this the right way? Probably not he does need to at least post on his site what is going on.
But then again what do I know? I'm just a bleeding heart, enabling 3rd partier.
Jerry
I am trying to figure out if he has my item or not. Has anyone been to his store today or even recieved any word from him? This is very frustrating, I'd hate to have to go to Johnstown just to confront him.
My question is this. Did you pay a deposit? If not, don't worry about it. I'm quite sure he has more on his plate than most of us could stand. Let it go, it's best to avoid any confrontation.
How do you know how much or how little he "has on his plate" any more than I know or any one else around here knows. As I predicted early on in this ridiculous saga, this guy was going the way of AM Hobbies On Line. Same MO. Don't take any customer calls, Stonewall whenever you can, put out as many misleading statements through third parties as possible and finally intimate some tragedy to bring out all the bleeding hearts on the forums. What a bunch of ****.
JMHO, as usual.
Kind of reminds me of the way some people were bashing Marty when Ma & Pa shut down.
"Oh poor me, I'm getting the run around or no answers from someone whos business is going under. This is unacceptable to me because I want my toy and I want it now and I have an overinflated sense of my own importance!
I don't care about them loosing everything I just want my toy and they are making things difficult for me! I should go and confront them, they're full of ****, you're a bleeding heart if you sympathize with him and don't back me up because you're all in cahoots with him and his supposed problems, blah, blah, blah, waaa, waaa, waaa..."
The guys business is going under and you think his big concern is you? He'll get to you eventually, he can't call everyone first someone is going to have to wait his turn.
It's a hobby for crying out loud and if it gets you that wound up maybe you need to reevaluate things. Is he handling this the right way? Probably not he does need to at least post on his site what is going on.
But then again what do I know? I'm just a bleeding heart, enabling 3rd partier.
Jerry
Calm down, Jerry...your medication is in the mail.
Kind of reminds me of the way some people were bashing Marty when Ma & Pa shut down.>>>>
He was another piece of work..he'd charge your credit card the second u ordered but took forever to mail the item... Always an excuse "i'm trying". " I"m not feeling good". As much as these excuses hindered delivery they didn't slow him from charging your card
Man some of YOU GUYS are real pieces of work! Marty never charged my credit card until he was ready to ship the item.
Jerry
Hope I receive the pre-ordered MTH 6 car LIRR MU's & B&O GP-7 sunburst power unit.
Hope I don't miss out on these long awaited items 
If you didn't exchange any money, you have no deal. As has been said, let it go and move on.
This happed to me with Island Trains last days. Received doubles on the front porch one day after switching mail order suppliers. 
Hello, All
I just want to let you guys know that I am willing to deal with your train needs and pre-orders. I will always discount and be competitive for MTH and Lionel Trains, Williams. Call our store and tell us you are an OGR Forum member and I will give you special pricing. Its always said to see another store close but give us a try. I always answer the phone and will do my best to help you. We are a medium sized dealer and and have been in the business for 30 plus years. Thanks for listening to me and Happy railroading.
Pat
PATRICK'S TRAINS
142 29TH STREET
WHEELING WV 26003
304-232-0714
E-MAIL PATSTRAINS@AOL.COM
i know i shouldn't respond to this but i have read this and the other thread on jason's why not give it a rest. if you ever lost a job whether your own fault or someone elses or got fired was it a great moment in your life. i'm sure jason isn't out celebrating his business' demise and im sure if he is reading some of these comments it surely can't make him feel great. someone wants to confront him someone else poor business plan and more stupid comments REALLY this is a hobby and you should enjoy it and your fellow hobbyist not go insane and ballistic about it grow up already. and one more comment cheapest price on 1/43 car&trucks big boys track yet when someone sells cheap and then goes out he's a poor business man. WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR MONEY AS A BUSINESS OWNER ON THE LINE AND YOU DEAL WITH SUPPLIERS WHO RETAIL CHEAPER THAN YOU GET WHOLESALE AND YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE GENIUSES AT THE CITY STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL YOU'LL SEE THE JOYS OF BEING A BUSINESS OWNER. I KNOW I HAVE BEEN SELF EMPLOYED FOR THE PAST 38 YEARS IF ANY OF YOU THINK ITS ALL FUN AND GAMES AND EASY... OPEN YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND GET SOME OF THE PLEASURE YOURSELF. THEN MAYBE YOU'LL THINK BEFORE YOU POST GIVE IT A REST. AND MAYBE SOME PEOPLE CLOSE THEIR BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE COMMENTS ON HERE. DO YOU THINK WE ALL LOST BECAUSE JASON CLOSED???
i know i shouldn't respond to this but i have read this and the other thread on jason's why not give it a rest. if you ever lost a job whether your own fault or someone elses or got fired was it a great moment in your life. i'm sure jason isn't out celebrating his business' demise and im sure if he is reading some of these comments it surely can't make him feel great. someone wants to confront him someone else poor business plan and more stupid comments REALLY this is a hobby and you should enjoy it and your fellow hobbyist not go insane and ballistic about it grow up already. and one more comment cheapest price on 1/43 car&trucks big boys track yet when someone sells cheap and then goes out he's a poor business man. WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR MONEY AS A BUSINESS OWNER ON THE LINE AND YOU DEAL WITH SUPPLIERS WHO RETAIL CHEAPER THAN YOU GET WHOLESALE AND YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE GENIUSES AT THE CITY STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL YOU'LL SEE THE JOYS OF BEING A BUSINESS OWNER. I KNOW I HAVE BEEN SELF EMPLOYED FOR THE PAST 38 YEARS IF ANY OF YOU THINK ITS ALL FUN AND GAMES AND EASY... OPEN YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND GET SOME OF THE PLEASURE YOURSELF. THEN MAYBE YOU'LL THINK BEFORE YOU POST GIVE IT A REST. AND MAYBE SOME PEOPLE CLOSE THEIR BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE COMMENTS ON HERE. DO YOU THINK WE ALL LOST BECAUSE JASON CLOSED???
So what kind of schmendrick goes into a business like this to begin with? Tell me.
someone with a dream... someone who thinks they can make money at something they love thinking it won't be work but a fun time. thank god for the stupid people who open business' otherwise we would be back to the times when we had to make everything ourselves. so jl cowen mike wolf rich melvin sam walton henry ford are all schmendricks???????????
someone with a dream... someone who thinks they can make money at something they love thinking it won't be work but a fun time. thank god for the stupid people who open business' otherwise we would be back to the times when we had to make everything ourselves. so jl cowen mike wolf rich melvin sam walton henry ford are all schmendricks???????????
What in the world are you talking about? If, as you state you are a businessman whose suppliers can sell cheaper that you can buy from them wholesale, then you are indeed a schmendrick. Henry Ford wasn't that stupid in his worst day.
I hope we have other reliable choices than MB Klein. I see good deals on Trainworld and Nassau - anyone have good experiences at either of those 2 places?
I personally have ordered from Nassau hobby center and dropped 3 grand on orders Charlie Nassau is a real friendly guy to deal with and Takes care of his customers
Nassau Hobby center has been real good to me
really skyhook obviously you haven't been in business or don't pay attention to reality. first off you don't stay in business for 38 years and be stupid no one is that lucky 2nd when a oil company sells bulk oil they set a price when say advance auto put an oil change special 5 quarts plus free oil filter it usually is lower that a quick lube pays for that same 5 quarts. then on top of that sometimes companies like pennzoil offer free hats etc that are not available to the quick lubes that as well lowers the price to the retail customer. maybe if i put that in your choo choo mind if a dealer buys a $1000 item for say $700. and then the manufacturer blows out the same item on their website to say $500. the dealer can do what when their customers go flocking to that deal. and in the 70's when i ran the 3rd largest motorcraft warehouse in the US and ford lowered some prices they told us that the prices that they raised balanced out what we lost. it happens in business all the time. as a footnote i can't buy the oil and filters from advance because of my contract with pennzoil plus advance has a limit on the quantity that could be purchased. think about it how many manufacturers and wholesalers have websites that they sell direct to the consumer at a discount lower than what a dealer sells at.
I wish Jason all the best.
I have nothing better to do tomorrow. I might just take a ride out to Johnstown and see for myself. I'll post my results if I make it. Not sure with the whole time change and all.
Sad news... I wish Jason well in his future endeavors.
Quite often closing a business is not simple and easily wrapped up with a bow. The pre-orders situation is likely one area that is not fully known or finalized due to the complexity of the supplier-dealer business agreement. If the pre-orders are to be fullfilled by the supplier (MTH/Lionel etc) I would "guess" that they would be handled by another mfr. approved dealer who could continue the mfr./dealer/customer relationship.
Jason, best wishes and keep your head up.
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