I don't have any Legacy models that are malfunctioning right now. I actually don't know of any smoke units having trouble, I just went through and rebuild half a dozen, and I use my standard light oil to lube the fan.
Does anyone know if the eliminator fluid is for sale yet ?
Contact them direct, it was supposed to be available after York, they were selling it at York.
I purchased a bottle of the eliminator at York. Very mild pleasing sent. I tend to change smoke fluid scents often. I ran two fills of the eliminator between changes and I am happy with results.
HEY GUNRUNNERJOHN,
Send me your E-mail and I will send you some of my NON-scent smoke to test. This smoke fluid will clear the unit of old scents in about two loads. I have been using our new smoke in my Marx Trains, MTH, Lionel and Williams and Weaver units with seuth units.
Thanks
Pat
e-mail patstrains@aol.com
Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:
Contact them direct, it was supposed to be available after York, they were selling it at York.
Originally Posted by Forrest Jerome:
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Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:
I would imagine the vapor permeates the bearings from the smoke chamber. Short of drowning the smoke unit in fluid, it's not going to be liquid over in the fan chamber. Since I've been successful in fixing many of them by simply giving them a little proper lubricant, I suspect it doesn't take much to lube the bronze bearings.
My guess is the same as gunrunnerjohn's and based on burning oils from internal combustion engines. Burning oil will tend to leave an oily residue on parts in proximity to the burning vapors' heat source...and figuring the residual heat continues to create some vapors even after the fan shuts off...only guessing.
I'm also guessing, as JT's mentions, tweaking the viscosity gave them a happy byproduct of the Eliminator, but as they also mentioned, may not work for all systems. I'm looking forward to giving it a try, and will be interested to read the feedback from different engine owners.
"Black Smoke" can be created by using finely powdered Carbon. Realistically messy.
Andrew
Originally Posted by falconservice:
"Black Smoke" can be created by using finely powdered Carbon. Realistically messy.
Andrew
Caution: Yes, you can get black smoke using Carbon, but beware!!!! See MSDS Sheet Information Below:
CARBON, ACTIVATED, POWDER
1. Product Identification
Synonyms:
Charcoal, Activated
CAS No.:
7440-44-0
Molecular Weight:
12.01
Chemical Formula:
C
Product Codes:
E343, E345, E346
2. Composition/Information on Ingredients
Ingredient CAS No Percent Hazardous
--------------------------------------- ------------ ------------ ---------
Steam Activated Carbon 7440-44-0 100% Yes
Quartz 14808-60-7 * Yes
* Product normally contains greater than 1% quartz.
3. Hazards Identification
Emergency Overview
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CAUTION! ACTIVATED CARBON AFFECTS THE RESPIRATORY AND CARDIOVASCULAR
SYSTEMS. INHALATION CANCER HAZARD. CONTAINS QUARTZ WHICH CAN CAUSE
CANCER. Risk of cancer depends upon duration and level of exposure.
SAF-T-DATA
(tm)
Ratings (Provided here for your convenience)
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Health Rating: 2 - Moderate (Cancer)
Flammability Rating: 1 - Slight
Reactivity Rating: 0 - None
Contact Rating: 1 - Slight
Lab Protective Equip: GOGGLES; LAB COAT; VENT HOOD; PROPER GLOVES
Storage Color Code: Green (General Storage)
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I think his point was that it would be very messy, not that we should create some fluid using it. 
