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Hi All; Being a mechanical kind of guy (with a petroleum engineering bent), I have always been interested in long railroad grades, the power needed to climb them, and the fuel used. So I just cobbled together the attached Excel spreadsheet, just for fun, based on the Cajon Pass in southern CA. The pass is some 23.5 miles long climbing eastbound, at a steady 2.2% grade to the summit. The example I used of an 18,500 ton train with 30,000 total BHP of engines, would take about 1.9 hours to climb the grade, at 12.4 mph in notch 8, and burn almost 2700 gallons of fuel doing it! Yikes! Note that this is based on newer EMD locs, and that older engines are fuel hogs by comparison. Attached also is an elevation profile for Cajon Pass, just FYI.

The information I used on engines and fuel rates was all acquired on the internet (so it has to be right! LOL). There is lots of data out there, and some of it conflicts in a big way. Note you can download the spreadsheet and put any data you choose into the light blue boxes and model your own favorite grade! I make no guarantees whatsoever about accuracy, so have fun and keep an open mind. It would be interesting to hear from those in the know, as to whether it resembles the real world at all??

Cheers, Rod

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So I have been playing with this a bit more. Looking at the Cajon Pass elevation profile it occurred to me that BNSF could make the 2700 ft climb a bunch easier by tunneling under the summit. I looked at two cases.

Case 1 involves the current trackage up to Keenbrook, then a new 19 mile bored inclined tunnel under the mountain, emerging in the area of Frost/Victorville. The tunnel would climb at a leisurely 0.518% grade and eliminate about 1100 ft of ascent and descent up to the summit at 3800 ft ASL.

Case 2 would be a longer 23.5 mile inclined tunnel right from BaseLine to Frost/Victorville. This would climb at a grade of 1.312% and again completely eliminate the summit. Attached is a clip summarizing the current summit climb, along with Case 1 and 2 highlights.

You can see that Case 1 saves almost 1100 gallons of fuel for the example 18,500 ton train, plus 0.58 hours travel time, and almost 23,000 HP-hours of engine usage. It also allows dropping 10,000 hp of pushers at Keenbrook because the rest of the trip can be made with only 20,000 hp. The cutoff pushers can then quickly head back down to SB for use with the next train.

Case 2 has about the same fuel and engine use savings; the only significant difference is it saves 0.76 hours travel time compared to the base case. Also in this case you still need the full 30,000 hp worth of power, so your pushers are going to wind up in Frost/Victorville, which is a much longer return trip to SB. Providing the tunnel is two track, there would be no need for westbound traffic to go over the summit anymore, and therefore no need for westbound pushers.

Note that the time savings for both tunnel cases is actually a little better than 0.58 & 0.76 hours, because you have to add the travel time from the summit down to frost/Victorville to the base case. This is about 18-19 miles long and depending on speed restrictions would take perhaps 30 minutes give or take. So the actual time savings to Frost/Victorville would be more like 1.08 & 1.26 hours. In my mind Case 1 option looks best. The tunnel is shorter, fuel burn is the same, and it saves almost the same amount of time, and 10,000 hp of pushers cuts off at Keenbrook. Both options also off much simpler track alignment, much reduced flange wear and tear due to much reduced curves, and no snow removal through the pass in winter (though I have no idea if this pass gets snow or not).

Is such a scheme even feasible? No doubt BNSF have looked at a few ideas and tunnelling may be too expensive. It's not impossible because CP did a 9 mile long bored tunnel through the solid granite of Mount MacDonald in Rogers pass in the late 1980's, mind you it was single track; not double. A Cajon tunnel would be twice as long and need a sophisticated ventilation system. But I have no doubt BNSF have the engineering expertise to make it happen. To do a project like this in Canada these days would likely not be economically feasible what with tree-huggers, lobbyist groups, save the planet types, First-Nations legal hassles, environmental studies up the wazoo, etc, etc, etc. Summary; Base, Case 1, Case 2

What do you folks think?

Rod

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In college, we did a similar study, but with vehicles through a tunnel.

Depending on the length of the tunnel, it is economically more sound (in the long run) to build a tunnel - when considering the cost of fuel, the # of transit hours lost, and the pollution produced.

Sure there will be an initial capital cost, but in time, there are benefits.

OC Patrick posted:

In college, we did a similar study, but with vehicles through a tunnel.

Depending on the length of the tunnel, it is economically more sound (in the long run) to build a tunnel - when considering the cost of fuel, the # of transit hours lost, and the pollution produced.

Sure there will be an initial capital cost, but in time, there are benefits.

You need to tell the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission that.   They seem to be under the (false) impression that eliminating tunnels will make for a faster and cheaper turnpike.  

I never could understand how climbing multi-mile-long bypass grades was more fuel efficient, but then again I'm not a politician. 

Larry3railtrains posted:

You must have some spare time, Rod.   Merry Christmas to you and Doris.

Rod & Larry, MERRY CHRISTMAS! 

Haven't read a post from you in while. 

Rod, I believe a factor that you didn't consider is the tonnage on freight moved for that distance. Then, compare the fuel consumption for any other method of moving the freight. The numbers work for profitability, so, I don't think any tunneling will happen.

Hi Carl. Yes I am thinking you mean the comparison of freight tonnage moved compared to other methods like trucking? I agree, and of course rail transport is more efficient than trucking by about 3 to 1 compared to trucking according to what I read. Regarding tunneling, for sure all the economic factors would need to be weighed. I dont have info for ton miles fuel consumption for regular rail freight service. My spreadsheet only considers fuel used to climb a grade without consideration to any losses, like rolling friction, wind losses, etc. So its just for interest sake. 😜

Rod

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