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I believe there black. To help you out, I did get 2 pictures of KCS that may help. The top picture I took back in Oct 2014 in Ashtabula Harbor Ohio and the bottom picture from Nov 2014 in Perry Ohio. Only thing is, when there's dirt on them, it's harder to see the original shiny paint. But weathering on an engine looks better and make the engine look like it been run loner and worked harder. A muscle locomotive. 

 

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@wrawroacx Thank you. I looked at Rail Net Photos of some pretty clean ones and they did look more black than green. Its' very hard to tell. Could not find any color charts for this scheme anywhere. I didn't know KCS Belle scheme had dark green in it until a bought an MTH ES44AC. I'm not sure but I think Lionel painted their ES44s black instead of the dark green. Could be a big flub on their part.

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