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Originally Posted by Kent Loudon:

Are any of these "ancient" locos operating with their original boilers?

Steam locomotives are like the legendary axe: The head's been replaced twice and the handle three times, but it's still the original axe!

 

100% straight from Baldwin, Rogers or whomever? No.

 

Any steam locomotive would have gone through multiple repairs and replacements of various components.  The boiler is more than just the shell, there's the firebox, crown sheet, stay bolts, flues, flue sheets, plumbing, all of which would have had some replacement during their service lives.  Even boiler courses were routinely replaced as needed.

 

Rusty

Let's put it this way:  Is Sierra Railway #3 any less of a locomotive now with her new welded boiler?

 

There are also a boatload of regulations to comply with today vs. the late 1800's.

 

If the intent is to operate a 100+year old locomotive in the 21st century, things are going to have to be replaced with parts made with contemporary processes and materials. 

 

Rusty

It's a shame that she'll be soon out of operation.  When the Wild Wild West movie came out, the locomotive came back to Baltimore still painted as it was for the movie (including still having "WANDERER" on the tender and with the #5!)

 

I not only had the pleasure that weekend of riding behind it, since I'm a lifetime member of the Museum there, and I was conversing quite a bit with the engineer (who went with her for the filming to run it) that I ended up riding in the cab on the return mile and a half back to Mt. Clare!  It was the ride of a lifetime, and it was quite an honor.

 

I'll have to find the photo of me in the cab, complete with James West hat!

Originally Posted by SJC:

From what I've heard, the Mason was rebuilt heavily with new tender and boiler (and possibly other items) for the Fair of the Iron Horse in 1927. From what I remember, it is suspected that the wheel centers and frame are the only original items left. 


I think you are correct.  There was also some cosmetic work done by the Walt Disney studio when it appeared in "The Great Locomotive Chase", but details are hazy as to if all parts were replaced or if something had to be rebuilt for it after filming.

Originally Posted by SJC:

From what I've heard, the Mason was rebuilt heavily with new tender and boiler (and possibly other items) for the Fair of the Iron Horse in 1927. From what I remember, it is suspected that the wheel centers and frame are the only original items left. 

The 0-6-4T mason at Greenfield Village isn't much original either.  I assume the frame is original, and one of the crew members I chat with named a few other parts, but not many are from 1873.  It was re-gauged to standard gauge when it came to Dearborn as well.

It would be neat if they would do one final run as a photo freight, pulling some of their period link and pin freight cars.  On their steam days, they run it at a pretty low pressure, but they never pull any cars with it and at least I've never heard it work.  It is still a wonderful sight to see.

 

This rough, unedited, windy day video was shot five years ago with my then 4-year old son sitting on my lap.  Bye Bye.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48WzWT83-M4&list=UUz9qf9KfLq0Edp2V3PPKibQ

 

Bob

Originally Posted by bbunge:

It would be neat if they would do one final run as a photo freight, pulling some of their period link and pin freight cars.  On their steam days, they run it at a pretty low pressure, but they never pull any cars with it and at least I've never heard it work.  It is still a wonderful sight to see.

 

When I was there in 1999 for that steam weekend (which was the one, I think, right after the release of Wild Wild West) they did a few special runs with the Mason pulling cars for riders.  They were the open air gondolas, only 2 of them, I think, but she pulled those for a few times that day.

 

That reminds me: I'll have to find and scan the ticket for those rides!  It looks like a turn of the 20th century railroad ticket!

Blind lead drivers were quite common on 19th Century locomotives.  As noted by Bob it was a track issue coupled with the fact of very rapid technological change.  There were any number of railroads whose first power consisted of 4-2-0 locomotives.  The curves built for these engines were just fine until the railroad decided to upgrade to a 4-4-0. The blind drivers were one way to get around this problem.

Originally Posted by bbunge:

It would be neat if they would do one final run as a photo freight, pulling some of their period link and pin freight cars.  On their steam days, they run it at a pretty low pressure, but they never pull any cars with it and at least I've never heard it work.  It is still a wonderful sight to see.

 

This rough, unedited, windy day video was shot five years ago with my then 4-year old son sitting on my lap.  Bye Bye.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48WzWT83-M4&list=UUz9qf9KfLq0Edp2V3PPKibQ

 

Bob

Bob look up The Great Locomotive Chase on Netflix and watch it. The Mason works hard at one point and you really get to hear her hard at work on The Tallulah Falls Railroad. If you have anymore questions about the movie or the line the movie was shot on just shoot me an email. I love my hometown rail line!

 

Josh

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