LCCA Texas Tommy production cut back notification

What caused the production cutback?

Scheduling. Remember the clubs products are thrown into the mix with the rest of Lionels production. Lots of time gets lost because sub contracted vendors are involved in making certain parts. It is quite complicated to understand. 

Lou, glad I have mine already on order.    Will LCCA be adjusting the number of mint cars made as well?  Or do you expect to have extra mint cars now that the number of locomotives is being reduced?  Thanks for any info you can provide at this time.

David

Certainly will make it more collectable with reduced volume.

Yes and no.

SO MUCH stuff is being produced these days, I'm not sure ANYTHING is truly collectable.  Sure... some folks will quickly grab a few extra items here and there and try to pawn them off as "rare".  But does anyone REALLY care anymore?

None of the stuff produced today will EVER be viewed as truly rare collectibles until production levels of new stuff in general drops dramatically... or worse yet, comes to a grinding halt (which we know isn't all that imminent).  IMHO, of course.

HI DAVE we will need to adjust the mint cars cars too and we are well aware of that. I will NOT allow the mint cars to be produced in a large quantity than the locomotives as this is bad business.

thanks

louie

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why shouldn't we sell the cars at a much higher price. people who ordered early get to enjoy some sort of benefit plus the secondary market price increases the value of these cars.

One of the reasons I am no longer a member of the LCCA.

Originally Posted by C W Burfle:

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why shouldn't we sell the cars at a much higher price. people who ordered early get to enjoy some sort of benefit plus the secondary market price increases the value of these cars.

One of the reasons I am no longer a member of the LCCA.

IT'S your choice. AS i said the money goes right back to the membership as nobody receives a salary from the LCCA. If you have no interest in supporting the club than you have done the right thing by leaving us.

Wishing you nothing but the very best

A fellow member of the LCCA

Come on guys, a club needs to be supported, if your going to even have a club.

As for the non members paying more for LCCA product I have a simple fix for that little issue. Let them fork over the thirty-five dollars a year like the rest of us and then let them order early. Gee, I'm such a genius!

The next time you wont to buy something at BJ's or some other shopping club let me know how they respond to your logic.

In fact, as a member in good standing of the LCCA Lou, AL and the rest of the board would have **** to pay if they failed to give me, as said member special consideration over non-members.

Now that said, I wont my 88 Tonner Lou and I better get it for alot less then our friend CW pays for it, or at lest until he pays his dues.

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As for the non members paying more for LCCA product I have a simple fix for that little issue. Let them fork over the thirty-five dollars a year like the rest of us and then let them order early. Gee, I'm such a genius! 

That's not the issue.

The issue is members who only want the mint car being able to do so, rather than having to pay a premium on the secondary market.

I may be mistaken, but I believe Al indicated they would cut the numbers on the mint cars to match the locomotives.

Yes,  that is correct.  The mint car production is planned to be built to the same quantities as the engines.   We do not plan to make  more mint cars  then we have engines.  

Al K. 

OK now CW the story changes and your real complaint comes to the surface! YOUR GREED! We are rewarding those members who are spending over $500.00 to support the club.  A  mint car is a small token of appreciation to these folks who keep this club alive, allow the club to work with their deposit money and then wait untill **** freezes over to get their products. i wish i could DO MORE for these members. Without them there would be no club. You think our web site for example could survive with just your $35.00 dues per year and a convention car? IF so you are kidding yourself. That is only one example.

What about all the people that spend thousands in some cases to support our conventions. What about the money the convention attendee's raise for the club plus the make a wish foundation and childrens hospitals. Our club is more than just trains. I suggest you stop complaining and step up to the plate.

lou caponi

My Greed?

I'm not the one marketing instant collectables, and forcing people to buy an engine they don't want to get a boxcar.  Its not a matter of my desire for the boxcar. I stopped buying Lionel mint cars years ago, and never have purchased club cars of any kind. Its a matter of principle.

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 You think our web site for example could survive with just your $35.00 dues per year and a convention car?

So how does the TCA manage to support itself on the same dues, including its website,  library and museum?

So how does the TCA manage to support itself on the same dues, including its website,  library and museum?

Lets not forget to mention York.

when were you a member of the LCCA CW. I went well back into our system(several years) and could not find you. ARE you certain it wasn't the LRRC as people confuse the two on a regular basis.

have a great day

lou

C.W. Burfle is my pen name. I have been here and on other chat boards using this name, and only this name since late 2001. 

I was an LCCA member until recently.
 

Maybe TCA has many more members than LCCA?

Rusty

Candidly speaking, I think it's a bit absurd to be comparing different organizations.    Each have their areas of interest -- however broad (TCA) or focused (LCCA, LOTS, etc...) they may be.

Perhaps there's a hidden agenda going on here for whatever reason, and let's just leave it at that.

Lou, as always, keep up the great work.  I've said it before... and I'll say it again... the LCCA continues to impress and be a HIGHLY relevant club, and I'm not disappointed one bit that I joined earlier this year. 

David

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Perhaps there's a hidden agenda going on here for whatever reason, and let's just leave it at that.

No hidden agenda. Al got personal and nasty, and then went on to talk about fund raising. My comment about the TCA was part of my response.
When talking about how an organization funds itself, it is not unreasonble to wonder how similar organizations do the same.

Just drop it and move on, C.W.

This forum is for LCCA officers, members, and others who may be interested in the club's activities.  If you don't share an interest, it's best just to move along.

When someone accuses me of being unintelligent, greedy, or having a hidden agenda, I am probably going to respond.

I was glad when the thread went cold for about a day, too bad someone had to stir the pot.

CW.  I beg to differ.  I have not  made any personal and/or nasty postings.

Al K.

Al K.:

IMHO, your comments have always (not just on this thread) been positive and civil. .

It was never my intent to get a bunch of folks angry, or feel insulted.

The comment was focused on the decision to not make the mint car available to LCCA members who wanted to purchase them alone.

Admittedly, the LCCA is not the first entity to go the "gift" route. Lionel gave away a special early bird boxcar for the first Century Club when they realized that their prize drawing might open up some legal issues. Lionel did get some heat from unhappy customers over that.