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PRRronbh posted:

This would be a good place and time to ask.  Does anyone know of an O-gauge three rail manufacturer that made/makes an ALCO RS-2?  For me a RS-2 want be prototypically correct instead of the Erie RS-3 I posted early on.

Ron

Nope. But there are a couple of articles in ho magazines that show you how to convert an RS3 to an RS2.

Atlas. I painted and decaled 2 of these - one for a friend - some years ago, then Atlas and MTH both brought out GM&O RS1's. Grrr. 

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Below, similar story, second verse - actually first verse, as this GM&O (ex-LV) RS-3 was done in the 80's - then Lionel brought out a GM&O version. Grrr, again. The L&N was done many years later; a paint job too easy to pass up. These are "low-end" models compared to the Atlas, though they run smoothly and the body/truck tooling is excellent. Twin-motors; they can even be throttled down to less than light-speed.

These models desperately need a presentable fuel tank rendition hanging down in the middle. Easy project; basic wooden/plastic shapes. If you don't have 027/031 curves/switches (I don't) which need the shrunken tank clearance, it would be well worth the effort. 

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prrhorseshoecurve posted:
SIRT posted:

RS-2? Never seen one.

Well you can make one from an RS3. I believe Model Railroader did an article on converting an HO RS3 to an RS2. The visual changes are the file tank filler is on the cab sides (as the fuel tank was under the cab floor) some vent changes and more "air space " between the trucks.

As well as the larger front and rear cab windows with sharp corners, lacking exposed rubber grommets.

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laming posted:

Fuzz:

Funny you should ask that.

The KC&G is a very obscure line that not a lot of rail enthusiasts or model train enthusiasts know much about. I strongly suspect that I know more about this line than anyone else, as I am intimately familiar with it.

Please allow me to enlighten you. Here's is all that is a brief history of the KC&G:

http://www.vscalecreations.com/kcng1.htm

Andre

Andre, that's a great back-story about the KC&G!  Very nicely weathered and distressed diesels, too!

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laming posted:

Fuzz:

Funny you should ask that.

The KC&G is a very obscure line that not a lot of rail enthusiasts or model train enthusiasts know much about. I strongly suspect that I know more about this line than anyone else, as I am intimately familiar with it.

Please allow me to enlighten you. Here's is all that is a brief history of the KC&G:

http://www.vscalecreations.com/kcng1.htm

Andre

@Andre, I loved your story, I didn't realize it was just a background story, I thought the KC&G was a REAL (just an obscure name I didn't know) Railroad, er, Railway !! Bravo!  :-)

I will be remarkably out of place with all the other photos posted here of RS type models, taken to higher levels of realism. On the other hand, this is still the traditional and 027 forum, both of which can be hi-rail depending one's approach.

I had always hoped Lionel would do some locomotive along the lines of the postwar Alco FA made for the 027 line up. Obviously compressed, and yet still retaining the "look and feel" of the prototype. BUT, that hasn't happened. So, I've had to do it myself.

The starter set version Lionel RS-3, either with metal or plastic frame, both negotiate the 027 curve. But I wanted something that looked more in place with the smaller sorts of rolling stock that I am running. Which necessitated overlooking some prototypical accuracies.

I took a K-Line MP-15 frame, and chopped down a Lionel RS-3 body to fit on the smaller MP-15 frame. The shell is held to the frame via a screw and extender through the frame and shell. The first place I thought would work, didn't hence the small silver decorative piece on the hood. The second black one (which one day I should paint a matching blue) is where the shell is actually held.

Yes, inaccuracies aside, this smaller version looks right at home on my layout and may serve as inspiration to others with smaller sized layouts that wish to keep things more "proportional" over "prototypical." 

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Brian:

Now THAT'S a novel approach!

I understand the desire for a "traditional" sized RS of some type. I faced the switcher/road switcher syndrome when I was exploring the possibility of a simplifying my modeling life by embracing a hybrid 3-rail approach: Traditional-sized trains such as 6464 size boxcars, postwar Alco FA's, etc, but within a sincere operational/scenic attempt. My theme was going to be a double track main around the walls with industrial switching along the back drop/etc. Also in keeping with this "hybrid" concept attempt, I was intending to include some sincere efforts at prototypical operation.

As I developed the concept, I eventually had to face the fact that there was only one choice for a truly traditional sized switcher: The K-line/RMT "Bang" Alco. I was okay with that, knowing that the RMT version runs great... BUT... I just couldn't come up with anything for road switching.

So why not just run Lionel/RK GP7's RS's? Well, simple: I never could accept a full sized O scale engine handling 6464-type cars. AND I liked the things "traditional" brought to the table. (Manageable sized steam engines, 6464 sized cars, etc, etc!)

Looks like you took the bull by the horns!

Andre

brianel_k-lineguy posted:

I will be remarkably out of place with all the other photos posted here of RS type models, taken to higher levels of realism. On the other hand, this is still the traditional and 027 forum, both of which can be hi-rail depending one's approach.

I had always hoped Lionel would do some locomotive along the lines of the postwar Alco FA made for the 027 line up. Obviously compressed, and yet still retaining the "look and feel" of the prototype. BUT, that hasn't happened. So, I've had to do it myself.

The starter set version Lionel RS-3, either with metal or plastic frame, both negotiate the 027 curve. But I wanted something that looked more in place with the smaller sorts of rolling stock that I am running. Which necessitated overlooking some prototypical accuracies.

I took a K-Line MP-15 frame, and chopped down a Lionel RS-3 body to fit on the smaller MP-15 frame. The shell is held to the frame via a screw and extender through the frame and shell. The first place I thought would work, didn't hence the small silver decorative piece on the hood. The second black one (which one day I should paint a matching blue) is where the shell is actually held.

Yes, inaccuracies aside, this smaller version looks right at home on my layout and may serve as inspiration to others with smaller sized layouts that wish to keep things more "proportional" over "prototypical." 

Custom RS3 on K-Line MP-15 frame

Brian, you did an excellent job on that engine!!

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