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Gentlemen,

I am on my 6th ERR upgrade.  All has went fairly well, save for one bad board that was replaced under warranty, and an issue that was apparently tracked down to the foam tape not being thick enough (directions say to use 2 pieces).  The one thing I am continually baffled on is lighting hook ups.  I have done several Williams and 3rd rail brass and these have been easier than the H16 Lionel I am working on.  There seems to be much more to it than just hooking up the front and rear lights to the appropriate connection on the board.  

This unit has it's own light board with wire harness.  I identified what ran what and moved forward.  The only way I could get everything to work is if I picked up power at the roller pickups (hot connection) on the board.  Everything seemed to work then even the cab lights.  However, after about 15 minutes of running, things seemed to warm.  All were still working but abnormally warm.  I would like to utilize the existing lights, but I'm baffled and the simple "connect here" instructions do not seem detailed enough to do this. This is a 2009 Lionel H16-44 conventional.

Any suggestions from experience?

Troy

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The ERR package has two lighting outputs, forward and reverse.

In command mode, the lighting outputs put out half-wave track power, so what you see is pulsating DC.  The polarity of the lighting outputs is negative in respect to frame ground.

I'm sure things are getting warm running on track power, those are 14V bulbs in the conventional models!

How about a specific product number?  I looked at the conventional H16-44, 6-38438, and I don't see any complete wiring harnesses, so it's hard to know what you have.

Besides the model, how about some pictures of what the existing lighting harness/boards look like?

Does this engine have LED's or incandescent bulbs?  The reason I ask is that the ERR outputs are negative in respect to frame ground, and if they're using LED's and assuming the full-wave AC from the DREU reverse board, you may have to do some adjustment.  Again, they don't show the light breakdown for this engine in the parts, so I have no idea what the lighting board has on it.

Remember those pictures I asked for?

Logically, the purple wires would go to the two light outputs on the CC, but I'm wondering about the polarity issue.   Since you have a smoke unit that will presumably be using the feature output, you'll have to ad-lib the cab light.  Put a diode in series with it and connect it to track power.  The diode is to cut the voltage down so you won't cook the bulbs.

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