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Hey folks,

I'm curious how many of you are holding off of getting Lionel's ex-RailKing P42 Amtrak 50th Anniversary engine(s) in the hopes that Atlas will do a run of the 50th anniversary liveries with their newly-purchased ex-Premier P42 tooling from MTH. I'm in the holdout camp, as I would want the size/detail to match my existing MTH Genesis engines. I continue to be hopeful, but I couldn't help but notice that Atlas did not make any sort of announcement before or participate in TrainWorld's Amtrak event this week. All of the manufacturer's involved in that event have licensed Amtrak's liveries and logos, and I'm wondering if Atlas is taking those same steps. MTH never was an official licensee AFAIK, and I suppose Atlas doesn't need to be one, either, but there seems to be a definite push to be "official" when it comes to Amtrak licensing these days. On the flip side, one may quite reasonably argue that Atlas wouldn't have ponied up for the Genesis tooling if they weren't going to produce some Amtrak engines (VIA, New Haven and Metro North liveries notwithstanding, of course).

Anyway, I'm just curious what others are thinking. I'm jonesing for a midnight blue scale Genesis in the worst way--here's hoping Atlas pulls through.

Rafi

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Funny you should ask...

I'm not holding out for any Atlas products, BUT am thinking of waiting on Lionel's Genesis models in the Vol. 2 catalog because I want the same midnight blue anniversary loco. As Ryan revealed in the Train World presentation the other night, Lionel announced they will do additional Amtrak items (not in the catalog) including the great looking #100 livery. Details to be announced later. Obviously, we're talking different interest areas as I'm happy going with the smaller LC+ 2.0 versions (ex-RailKing).

Let's hope we can all get what we want!

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The likelihood is pretty good considering they bought the MTH Premier tooling.

The reason why the P42s have not been announced yet is that, at Amtrak's direction, model manufacturers were asked to not offer or make any of the new special paint jobs until they are out of Amtrak's shops. The reason for this is so the model manufacturers can get the most accurate paint scheme, color, etc. 4/5 have entered revenue service and the fifth is entering revenue service sometime in August per the Amtrak rep during the Trainworld show. I would suspect sometime this fall we get an official announcement from Atlas.

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@johnstrains posted:

Funny you should ask...

I'm not holding out for any Atlas products, BUT am thinking of waiting on Lionel's Genesis models in the Vol. 2 catalog because I want the same midnight blue anniversary loco. As Ryan revealed in the Train World presentation the other night, Lionel announced they will do additional Amtrak items (not in the catalog) including the great looking #100 livery. Details to be announced later. Obviously, we're talking different interest areas as I'm happy going with the smaller LC+ 2.0 versions.

Let's hope we can all get what we want!

I also watched the show and would like to add that Ryan mentioned matching Amfleet cars (my assumption is that they are not scale). Also he said the catalogs next year will include more scale amtrak items.

Two options:  First, Lionel seems to finally be really interested in Amtrak equipment, so let's hope a scale Legacy engines and cars are in the near future (although my very long awaited Third Rail Amfleet cars are finally on the water).

Second: it is hard to imagine Atlas not bringing out a Genesis diesel since they have the MTH dies.  My main concern is that they do not offer a TMCC option when they do.  Their first diesel announcements show only a DCS option.  It would seem foolish to not offer both to double their potential market.

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