@Strummer posted:So...the "LionChief" line is semi scale... kinda like O27? Sorry for asking a dumb question...
Sometimes this O scale/ gauge world can be a bit confusing. Seems like there are several "levels" of offerings...from all the different makers.
Mark in Oregon
Not all the makers. 
@BradFish1 posted:Jon,
What do you think of the sounds?
The sounds compare favorably with the most recent TMCC RailSounds, with the creaking and groaning sounds added in the last year or so.
Jon 
@Tuscan Jim posted:They look great--hope you guys really enjoy them! The real coal loads really add a lot to these units.
Do we know if the upcoming lionchief plus Hudson’s are going to have real coal loads? Perhaps the real coal will be added to all future lionchief plus offerings.
My 1361 is supposed to arrive tomorrow so I will post photos next to my RailKing K4 for comparison.
@BradFish1 posted:My 1361 is supposed to arrive tomorrow so I will post photos next to my RailKing K4 for comparison.
I'd like to see that!
Jon
No videos of the "unboxing"/ Pictures are just not enough when removing a train from a box Jon! LOL! Seriously though any video of it in action?
Maybe when I get home tonight?
Jon
Hopefully these can fill the voids for those unable to get Rail King offerings.
@romiller49 posted:Hopefully these can fill the voids for those unable to get Rail King offerings.
Do these LC+ 2.0 locomotives have brake squeal, clickity clack, labor chuff, rev up/down sound effects? I know they do not using the BT app but what about when using Legacy? I really like those sound features in my Railkings.
Brad
Brakes squeal when hitting the brake button. I’ve never heard “clickety clack” from a train. I’ve never seen a MTH engine in action, so I can’t compare.
Jon
Ok thanks Jon. So no labor chuff I guess either.
MTH's "clickety clack" as they call it is just a thumping metal banging noise that sounds very much like a real train on the tracks. Probably more at medium to higher speeds. It's pretty neat.
Brad
Hopefully I'm not hijacking the thread, but here's a vid of mine in action. 13 Traditional sized cars with zero issue, this thing is quite the puller!
Thanks for posting the pictures and video guys. I think I’ve just about made up my mind to pull the trigger. Based on the picture of the new K4 beside the lionmaster T1, it appears that they scale well together.
Sorry for the cruddy iPhone quality...
Jon
@BradFish1 posted:Here is 1361 and my Railking K4 for comparison. The engine tender gap is much better on the Lionel.
Great comparisons! The Lionel tender is much nicer, as is the gap. MTH wins the classification lights competition.
Jon
I received my 1361 and I love it. The sound is excellent. It sounds just like a Legacy K4. As others have said, the small tender gap is very impressive. The smoke is also great. It smokes in big plumes but actually smokes a little lighter - No thick white smoke. This should be seen in person for best illustration but basically the smoke is lighter so it dissipates faster and scented smoke fluid actually smells like the scent instead of the burning smell everyone hates. Also, the firebox flicker is great.
One area for improvement (though not a huge deal) is if Lionel would allow you to switch out the cast-in front coupler for an O gauge coupler to allow double heading. If this were the case, I would have bought two since LC 2.0+ is basically TMCC and should have that ability. The pilots are brass parts so I imagine this should be doable.
All in all, very impressed! Hoping to enjoy mine for many years to come!
Really hope Lionel offers the LionMaster T1 with LC+ 2.0 in the near future.
Can any of you get the water fill button to work on your Cab1-L or 2? I push it but no sound.
With Rail King Imperial engines like the one above, I've received them with a long drawbar installed but a short, optional drawbar included in the package. I believe the long one is installed to ensure smooth sailing around 31" curves. In fact, while perusing a forum sponsor's website recently, I noticed that you can buy a 3-pack of drawbars with different lengths ranging from 25mm to 45mm. Here's a link. https://www.mariostrains.com/i...id=15&Itemid=535
Once I get my new layout operational and get more comfortable with DCS, I'm thinking about swapping out the long one for a shorter on my tuscan K4. It's designated for passenger service, and my outer/passenger mainline has 72" and 54" curves, so I shouldn't need that long one.
@BradFish1 posted:Can any of you get the water fill button to work on your Cab1-L or 2? I push it but no sound.
I hate to admit it... but I haven't read the manual. This may be a first for me. I assume there are a bunch of sounds I'm not aware of.
Jon
@BradFish1 posted:Can any of you get the water fill button to work on your Cab1-L or 2? I push it but no sound.
That’s a Legacy-only sound effect.
I almost forgot! No beeping from LionChief Plus 2.0!
Jon
Ditto NSPhil on the flickering fire box. I'm very impressed with this little engine. Big bang for the buck.
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