Lionel catalog tease is up.

Whoa...  big bucks...

When you get yours I'll come over and watch....

Your welcomed to come over anytime.

 

Alex

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The separate sale N&W J will be #612.

611 & 612 had the same flat-deck tender. Makes it easy for Lionel to provide a second engine number.

Up until the 611, previous J's had the roll-top tender like Lionel made with the 606.

I have and like the 606. I don't want the new one badly enough to replace it.  I'm looking for a cab forward and a correct GS-4.

I'd like to see some more Auto Rack Cars, some more Lionmasters and maybe a few more Santa Fe Slogan Reefers.

Any word on scale passenger cars?  Maybe some StationSounds add-ons?

 

David

Speaking of gs4s ... Eric from Eric trains says something about a daylight on his facebook page any truth to this? A daylight and a J in the same catalog?

Figures, I just bought a scale GS-2. Love it. Hopefully they will keep producing the passenger cars, and release some SS diners.
I'm lucky in that I have no interest in the J. The Mohawk on the other hand.... maybe I can find the older one on the cheap?

This is a decent price on one of the previous 2005(korean made FWIW) offerings of TMCC RS 5.0 "4 chuff" mohawks. This was a "take out" from the empire builder set. I'm not sure if its still available,this was up on the  for sale forum for some time.https://ogrforum.com/d...ent/6216614252395618 Heres a pic of my mohawk which was the "seperate sale" mohawk from 2005. Substantially greater detail than any of my legacy steamers.If Lionel sticks with all of the original detail , these should be a hit.

Regardless of what is included, it is nice that Lionel chose my birthday to debut their new catalog. That new Legacy J would make a great present!

Not a bad deal sir! I will keep you in mind after York!

LOL... Lionel should have released the break down B unit for the Cents.

Only 3 sleeps to go now.   Then we can start complaining and then asking about the 2013 catalogue. 

How perceptive you are Nicole!

Rick O

 

Fantastic pic with the backdrop. Sure wish mine looked that good. 

Very, very excited about the Cab & Base 1L.  I don't have a Legacy yet, just TMCC, so this is a very welcome introduction; it'll be more like the remote I'm used to than a Legacy.

I'm still hoping for Amtrak Superliners (and a decent Amtrak engine to go with them), but I'm starting to get used to them never being re-released. Not sure if I'll jump for one of the NS heritage units or not.

Wouldn't the Lionel L-3 Mohawk from many years ago be nice upgraded with a DC motor,

more details, Legacy, and so on, be nice? More work to get it up to todays expected

standards, and MTH has done the L-3, but, still...a thought.

 

The L-2 is certainly stunning, though - I have the TMCC version.

 

FWIW, an H-10 NYC Mike would definitely open my wallet.

 

 

 

 

Yes a Daylight, and for that matter three other GS class locos.

Now that sure is interesting. Wonder if Lionel will have the correct running gear under ANY potential GS-4/GS-5 models. Plus, will they offer a "skirt less" black, early/mid 1950s version with all the detail under where the skirts were?

The Daylight is a GS2.  Lots of re-cataloged items also.

 

My big question is about the new Cab1-L.  Catalog pictures of the Cab1-L and its base look exactly like TMCC.  How do you quill the whistle with just a push button?  Should be interesting what is learned at York about this new offering.

Btw, the N&W J's will be delivered in January. How is that for fast.

 

Well that's a relief!!!  Should lessen the temptation level. 

 

Based on early indications from posts above, it would seem this may be quite THE catalog of Legacy "re-issues" for locos that were produced in the early 2000's.  I didn't buy all that much in the latter part of the decade, but I do recall purchasing the J (#606), Daylight GS-2, and Western Pacific GS-64 when they all hit around the same time.  So this is a bit like deja vu all over again... just with the Legacy upgrades this time around.

 

David

Er, there were no:

 

1.  UP Centipede diesels

2.  No 'pede B units.

That is about how ALL cataloged items should be delivered, in my opinion.  Four to six months after being cataloged would be just fine in most cases.

Ask again in January.

 

Rusty

I like the gs2 better then the gs4.. I dont like the mars light..

 

The funny thing is i have seen six 611/606s for sale in the last 4 days ...

I'm glad it's a GS-2 also.  I love the one I have and don't need a Legacy version.  I still want the GS-4 but can wait.  I plan to buy a Ross double crossover soon that will significantly impact my train budget.

>>>I do recall purchasing the J (#606), Daylight GS-2, and Western Pacific GS-64 when they all hit around the same time.  So this is a bit like deja vu all over again<<

 

If you remember that you'll also recall both the WB-GS 64 & the SP GS2 were beautiful engines that didn't sell well at all.   Both were eventually blown out cheap.

I recall paying $675 out the door for the SP. A super deal on a great looking engine. Also, don't recall the year or MSRP of the #611 but I do remember paying $825 at my LHS.  

Joe

The #611 Was listed in the '05 catalog for $1250.

Well that certainly isn't the best news I've heard but...

 

 

Yes... both those engines were "sleepers" as they say, and they not only look great -- they sound terrific as well with RS 5.0, and I purchased them together for a fabulous deal.  I in no way feel compelled to replace them with the newly catalog'd versions just to pay premium dollar for perhaps a whistle-steam effect or whatever new incremental feature(s) they're gonna have, along with slightly better sounds.

 

But for those folks in the market for these types of locomotives now, I'm sure they'll be quite pleased with the new Lionel offerings.

 

David

 

That's because too many folks trip all over themselves to have the latest and greatest, despite the fact they're likely to pay top dollar when these items first hit the street -- not to mention the bargain pricing at which they're likely gonna sell the "N-1" generation locomotives.  Not exactly win-win, but at least this is a hobby where N-1 items are still worth SOMETHING toward the purchase of new items that may be on one's wish list.

 

David

I don't believe the GS's will have any new features besides Legacy and Legacy RS.  I admit though I scanned that page rather quickly.

If they dont have smoking whistle or steam affects theres 0 reasons to get them cause rs5 sounds are as good as legacy imo...

All I can say is some may not remember this past March when 21 engines hit the LS before the 2012 Vol. 1 catalog did..

for anyone that has actually seen the catalog, how much are they asking for the NS heritage units?

Norfolk Southern heritage diesels retail for $550.  And while I admit to scanning the catalog VERY quickly, it appeared they're being offered in a choice of two powered units and one dummy unit!!!

I can also confirm that I walked away with the impression that the J, GS2 Daylight and GS64 Western Pacific do NOT have whistle steam effects or steam-chest effects listed in the catalog descriptions.  Not a compelling reason to upgrade or pre-order IMHO unless the catalog descriptions are wrong. 

If anyone knows otherwise, please let us know.

David

any new conventional classics?

Think these 2 may be "Postwar Inspired" or whatever they are calling them now:

 Wabash F3 A-B set #2367

 also a Wabash dummy A unit