Lionel GE Evo ES44AC

Did you reset the engine?

I've done this too my EVO version and I have this problem on my CP version.... I found it too be the smoke fan motor. Its finding a dead spot on the commutators/ brushes in the Smoke fan motor its self.. It does this at the low voltage/RPM speed it turns when its not being revved up.  I haven't done this repair too the CP yet, I have been too busy. Also since you are in there you should just do a full service on the smoke unit anyways. New wicking and maybe a new resistor.... 

Smoke motor or smoke pcb. 

jojofry posted:

Smoke motor or smoke pcb. 

I will 2nd the PCP. I keep spares around for all my diecast ES44AC needs.

DK122Trains says reset engine. How do you do this?

Bruk says to busy to do repair. What repair are you speaking of?

Jojofry mentions pub. Mduppy mentions PCP. Which is it and what do these letters stand for?

Thanks to all for your help!

Bobby Cox posted:

DK122Trains says reset engine. How do you do this?

How to reset the engine is in the manual. It's similar to the original set up.

Bruk says to busy to do repair. What repair are you speaking of?

Replacing the fan motor

Jojofry mentions pub. Mduppy mentions PCP. Which is it and what do these letters stand for?

I don't know what it stands for, but it's the board on top of the smoke unit that holds the resistor.

Thanks to all for your help!

Bobby Cox posted:

DK122Trains says reset engine. How do you do this?

Is this the Vision Line GE Evo? I don't recall Lionel making another die cast version of this engine. If it is the VL version, this is a link to the manual and the reset instructions are on pages 21 (using CAB2 remote) and 27 (using a CAB1): https://www.lionelsupport.com/...6123628306Hybrid.pdf

Bear in mind that this engine has some unique smoke output features and does not necessarily produce smoke continuously. See the manual for details. It should nonetheless produce smoke on startup.

I have this engine and the CP version too. Both have developed fan noise issues although neither has stopped smoke output. These are of course Legacy engines (albeit early Legacy) and I thought all Legacy engines had the diagnostic cab light blinks, which will come on if you have a fan motor, heating element or drive train issue. However I can't see a reference to this in the manual and I have not seen it happen on either of my models.

In your case however I'd check that you have not turned off smoke at the remote. Press the button that increases smoke output (9 on the keypad, third row down on the right) and see if that has any effect. Also, is there any heat at all coming from the engine's smokestack? The heater should be on although at a low temperature even if the fan motor is not running. When you start the engine up, can you detect any fan noise/air being pushed out of the stack?

Bruk says to busy to do repair. What repair are you speaking of?

I think he means replacing the smoke unit fan motor. It's a somewhat fiddly job. Eric S. of Ericstrains.com did a video on servicing noisy fan motors, which will give you an idea of what's involved in getting at the fan motor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ie1ByI3Z4Y

Jojofry mentions pub. Mduppy mentions PCP. Which is it and what do these letters stand for?

I believe that they are both talking about the smoke unit PCB = Power Control Board. Failures of these are pretty rare but have a look in the place Jeff T describes to see if there is any visible sign of heat damage, which I suppose you might have if the smoke unit ran dry. (The PCB is just the top of the smoke unit; you might be able to see it by lifting the radiator roof hatch on the rear of the loco as shown on page 10 of the manual. If it's been badly damaged, there is likely to be the smell of burnt plastic.)

Thanks to all for your help!

With the idea of engine reset, I had smoke, issues on Lionel SD 60, and I know I tried a reset , of  , probably 

5 to 6 times,    GGG, in the Virginia bay, area posted this engine, on the forum

since I m not much about taking Plastic Model train shells open,  here is the link  ( aint that a mess)

and the END results, is I am a happy camper with his lead on the repair and taking care of it !!!!!

https://ogrforum.com/t...32#67736898069191932

I recall the thread on board failure linked above. Bear in mind that the main subject was the more recent Legacy boards, which I don't think are the same as the ones in the VL GE Evo. GGG also referred to the flashing cab light warning, which as noted above I am really not sure this engine has. (On reflection it would be a odd if it didn't as earlier VL engines have that feature.)

Bobby Cox posted:

DK122Trains says reset engine. How do you do this?

Bruk says to busy to do repair. What repair are you speaking of?

Jojofry mentions pub. Mduppy mentions PCP. Which is it and what do these letters stand for?

Thanks to all for your help!

https://www.lionelsupport.com/...63-8ca8-ad1fc4356767

its number 10 .. Warning this has the light board that controls the lights on the side of the engine next to it ..  Not real hard but not a real easy job.. Chances are like 90% of the diecast es44 engines the railsound  universal board will get caught in the shell makes it real fun to  remove..