Lionel - new catalog anouncement

I saw it, but wasn't really sure what to think? I need to take a more complete look, but was thinking it wasn't tinplate on my first look?

A FAUX tinplate set has some limited appeal. Hopefully, they have corrected the pantograph issue and the Odyssey lurch of the TMCC versions!

The swinging bell is a nice feature!

It's been talked about ever since the catalog went online.

Some folks love it.

Some folks hate it.

Some folks are mildly amused or intrigued by it.

Rusty

Put me down for "amused"!

I will NOT be ordering one! Prefer the REAL thing!

Mike Reagan was long gone before the new catalog release.

RickO posted:

Mike Reagan was long gone before the new catalog release.

But, he was there when the catalog contents were being decided on, whether or not if this was his idea.

Rusty

Mine had a lurch in Odyssey mode and the pantographs would pop-up from the normal positon and look wrong. Others have mentioned these problems.

Tinplate Art posted:

Mine had a lurch in Odyssey mode and the pantographs would pop-up from the normal positon and look wrong. Others have mentioned these problems.

Can't speak to the pantograph issue, but I do not beleive any legacy locos have the Lurch issue.  I know none of the legacy locos I've owned had it.  And I'm pretty sure Oddessey 2 (which legacy locos have) was said to solve the lurch.

I also don't care for the Daylight ACs but I do like this. Even better would be this engine with passenger cars painted for the green State set.

Pete

fisch330 posted:

hey, Guys:  Am I the only one who picked up on this?  In the new catalog Lionel announced the reissue of the NYC "S" class locomotive, but on page 26 and 27 they are actually offering a "set" with three freight cars, but what's cute is that the engine and cars are all painted up in bright colors like pre-war, stamped metal, tinplate cars!  They are even sporting brass number and name plates.

I find this really humorous because MTH has been making their replica, pre-war trains and some of them have "modern" or scale type paint jobs on them.  So, am I the only one who sees this juxtaposition, here?  This HAS  to be a Mike Reagan idea!  This whole idea really smacks of Mike's sense of humor.  I think that it's just one little, last gift that he left with Lionel upon his leaving.

Paul Fischer

That's a good one Paul. When I talked with Mike last week I mentioned that the new catalogs came in the mail. He said I have to guess which items are his ideas. Not sure if there is a prize. 

Lou N

Tinplate Art posted:

Put me down for "amused"!

Me too.  Fake tinplate set at best.  Doubt there will be enough pre orders for them. 

Tinplate Art posted:

Mine had a lurch in Odyssey mode and the pantographs would pop-up from the normal positon and look wrong. Others have mentioned these problems.

I have the early TMCC version and it has a "speed step jump", but it is not to be confused with the early Odyssey lurch that Lionel had in locomotive produced in the early years or 2000-2002. I was able to smooth this speed step jump by keeping the wheels clean and running it with a CAB 2 in TMCC mode.

The pantagraphs are very fragile and as discussed before they tend to break. Not sure if there will be a more robust solution with this release.  

"Speed step jump" or "lurch" - Mine never ran completely smooth with TMCC and the pantographs sort of "popped up" and looked goofy. Sold it with a proper disclaimer for a fraction of what I paid for it! 

I think it's going to be a cool set and for the first time since Lionel's VisionLine 700e the S2 locomotive will be equipped with Lionel's very cool swinging bell feature!  Can't wait!  http://www.billsogaugetrains.com/