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Hi I'm new to both super O track and the forum.  I'm in the process of building a new layout and I have the following accessories that I need to interface with the super O track:

362 barrel loader

145 Operating Gateman House

455 Oil Derrick and pump

394 Beacon

397 coal loader

153 BLOCK SIGNAL

445 SWITCH TOWER

6-24149 Hobo Hotel

MTH water tower

6-12948 Bascule Bridge

Any help you can give will be greatly appreciated.

old2065 

 

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I don't completely understand what you are asking, but I'll give it a shot as a Super O user when it was "new" 1958/59 (and so was I).  The  #145 used either a #145C  controller, a sort of switch  which went under the track ties; or an insulated outer rail which acted as a switch via the train cars trucks.  There are special SO insulated outer rail sections  (No.48 tracks).  Look for straights with no metal jumpers on the underside between outer rails on straight sections. They are what I am referring to.  You may have some and not realize it!

The # 153 used a #153C controller, or an insulated rail and a radio shack relay, of sorts, to switch from green to red  and red to green.

The #145C and#153C fit fine under SO track.  No problem!!!!

The #3562  Barrel Car (1954) used some special lockons  (#OTC-1) for O and O27.  there was a SO special part ( #36 Remote Control Blades) which was made for this purpose but good luck finding them.  They could be fabricated with some creativity and courage.  The #362 Barrel loader (1952) is an "on-off" item,  see below.  It does however have a disc rectfier which  is known to die in middle age (after 30 or 40 years), If yours simply buzzes at you or does nothing, that is  most likely the problem..  It is an easy fix  with an modern epoxy recifier, however.

The other on-off stuff such as the oil derrick, beacon, coal loader, water tank  should not be "track type sensitive" assuming that you are not using a lockon to power them up... which is a bad idea anyhow!

I don't specifically recall a #2065, Greenburg lists it as part of the 665,685 & 2056 from 1953 and 1954.  I'm only guessing, but the pickup rollers may not like the lower power rail on SO.

Can't help you on the Bascule bridge. It was originally an early 50's item  (#313)  which was too expensive for my dad or my juvenile allowance.

I loved SO, and  the fact that the outer rails and pins match up perfectly with Gargraves and Ross track  is great.  Hope this helps!

Re the Bascule bridge, there are adapter pin sets for O gauge/Super O track that would allow you to use it.  There were also special half track sections made that you could attach special lock ons to, such as for the crossing signal or the one for the barrel car.  You can find these on ebay, or check out the Super O Yahoo group.  The moderator there is Mike Spanier, who also deals in SO and can find you anything - including the remote control blades.  

Re the 2065, it should work okay.  Engines with slider shoes such as the 1666 can have problems.

 

Last edited by John23

First, welcome to the Forum.  I have Super O Track, too, as well as Gargraves. While this is an excellent Forum covering all aspects of O Gauge Railroading, as already mentioned there is a Yahoo Group dedicated to Super O track.  Here is a link:  Click here: Lionel "Super O" Trackage - Yahoo Groups

Over the many years that Group has existed, members have posted questions and other members have posted answers regarding how to install and wire accessories such as those you mentioned.  I and other members have also posted photos and files such as scans of instruction sheets and service manual pages.

Re the 145 and 445, the best way is to wire those using an insulated outside rail such as on the #48 or #49 insulated super O sections.  Re the 153, unfortunately the insulated rail only closes a circuit so it can only turn the red light on and it can’t turn the green light off.  You could use #153C contactors under the track which requires leaving sections on each side of it loose plus they require adjustment often.  I use insulated rails along with relays to control my 153’s.  There is a way of doing it without relays but IMO it’s more complicated than using relays. 

The 362 itself is actually easy to wire with just two wires but in order to use a #3562 operating barrel car with it there are two options as mentioned by other posters.  Attached is a photo of mine which uses control rails.  Both rails get wired to the Control Button and then to the “Hot” terminal.  Re the 397, again wiring the loader only requires two wires but you need either control rails if you want to use a dump car with sliding shoes, or a #38 uncoupling section if you are using a dump car with a magnetic plunger.  See the 2nd attached photo in which I used control rails.  In this case one rail gets wired to the control button and then to hot and the other rail gets wired to ground.  Notice that I also located a milk car platform at that spot which uses the same control rails to save wiring.  

Re the bascule bridge, I had one on a previous Super O layout which I dismantled over 25 years ago and as I recall I used short sections of O27 track on both ends at the approaches to the bridge.

Happy New Year,

Bill (also from Western PA, originally)

 362_Barrel_Loader397_Coal_Loader_&_Milk_Platform 

 

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